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Snow in Southern California!

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:59 pm
by Panacea
Can you believe we got SNOW this morning? :shock: Only a tiny bit, but for southern California NOT in the mountains it's amazing! When we saw the forecast for snow yesterday we thought it must be a glitch, but it really snowed! :-D Image
This is a picture of my daughter making a face at me ;) and the white bits are SNOW! :-D

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:06 pm
by Xanadu
You have snow, no fair! :razz:

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:33 am
by CygnusX1
Xanadu wrote:You have snow, no fair! :razz:
Ain't that silly! El Nino wreaking havoc again...If all our RAIN was SNOW here, we'd have to TUNNEL out. :roll:

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:03 am
by schuette
we've not had snow yet

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:57 am
by Big Blue Owl
And remember! Global warming and disturbances don't exist! It's just a leftist myth.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:44 pm
by Walkinghairball
schuette wrote:we've not had snow yet
What, like no snow this year, at all?


We have had 3 or 4 good hits here.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:05 pm
by schuette
not in Grangemouth no...

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:06 pm
by Walkinghairball
Dang.



Want somma ours?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:07 pm
by schuette
yep I do hehehehe

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:09 pm
by Walkinghairball
*Starts to mentally teleport snow to Scotland.......................beads of sweat..............................exhaustion*

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:39 pm
by PV
I want snow... Sigh... :(

They aren't expecting any to make an appearance this season. :?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:51 pm
by Panacea
Isnt' that a bit odd?

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:55 am
by ElfDude
Big Blue Owl wrote:And remember! Global warming and disturbances don't exist! It's just a leftist myth.
Let's look at ten myths and facts about it, with no politics involved.
Myth 1 Average global temperature (AGT) has increased over the last few years.
Fact 1 AGT has remained steady, or slightly declined, since 1998.

Myth 2 During the late 20th Century, AGT increased at a dangerously fast rate and reached a high point of unprecedented magnitude.
Facts 2 The recent rate of AGT rise has been between 1 and 2 deg. C/century, which falls squarely within natural rates of climate change for the last 10,000
years. AGT has been several degrees warmer than today many times in the recent geological past.

Myth 3 AGT was relatively unchanging in pre-industrial times, has sky-rocketed since 1900, and will increase by several degrees more over the next 100 years (the Mann, Bradley & Hughes "hockey stick" curve).
Facts 3 The Mann et al. curve has been exposed as a statistical contrivance. There is no convincing empirical evidence that past climate was unchanging, nor that 20th century changes in AGT were unusual or unnatural.

Myth 4 Computer models predict AGT will increase by 6 deg. C or more over the next 100 yr.
Facts 4 Deterministic computer models do. Other equally valid (empirical) computer models predict cooling.

Myth 5 Warming of 1-2 deg. C will have catastrophic effects on ecosystems and mankind alike.
Facts 5 Ecosystems have been adapting to climate change since time immemorial. The result is the process that we call evolution. Mankind can adapt to all climate extremes.

Myth 6 Human addition of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere is causing dangerous warming, and is generally harmful.
Facts 6 No human-caused warming can yet be detected that is distinct from natural system variation and noise. Any additional human-caused warming which occurs will probably amount to less than 1 deg. C. Atmospheric carbon dioxide is a beneficial fertilizer for plants, including cereal crops, and also aids efficient evapo-transpiration.

Myth 7 Changes in solar radiation cannot explain recent changes in AGT.
Facts 7 The sun's output varies on many time scales (including that of the 11-year sunspot cycle), with concomitant effects on Earth's climate. More than 50% of the 0.8 deg. C rise in AGT observed during the 20th century can be attributed to solar change.

Myth 8 Unprecedented melting of ice is taking place in both the north and south polar regions.
Facts 8 Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are growing in thickness. Sea ice around Antarctica is growing. Temperature is falling at the South Pole. Temperature in the Arctic Ocean region is just now achieving the levels of warmth experienced during the early 1940s, and the region was warmer still (sea-ice free) during earlier times.

Myth 9 Human-caused global warming is causing dangerous global sea-level (SL) rise.
Facts 9 SL change differs from time to time and place to place; between 1955 and 1996, for example, SL at Tuvalu fell by 105 mm (2.5 mm/yr). Global average SL is a statistical measure of no value for planning purposes. The global average SL rise of 1-2 mm/yr that has occurred over the last 200 years shows little sign of increasing.

Myth 10 An increase in AGT during the late 20th century has led to an increase in the number of severe storms (cyclones) or in storm intensity.
Facts 10 Meteorological experts are agreed that no increase in storms has occurred beyond that associated with natural variation of the climate system. The argument that storms have increased in their intensity as a result of warming remains the subject of strong dispute.
Meanwhile, it's so freakin' cold in my neighborhood that all waterpipes leading to my kitchen are frozen and they probably will be for the next week! That hasn't happened here in years. I sure hope they don't ruptrue. It's a very old house.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by Mini
-sits in corner crying-
it's not fair!
you western freaks gets snow, but we DON'T??
we're the ones who're supposed to get the white stuff, not YOU!

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:14 am
by schuette
ElfDude wrote:
I sure hope they don't ruptrue. It's a very old house.

fingers and toes crossed for you :-)