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thats exactly what I was thinking..

Shall we add Kanye West to my fictional hit list?

Some will do anything to stay in the limelight.

I read an article about an eleven-year-old boy who faked his own kidnapping to avoid bringing home a bad report card.

"Talking to you is like showing a picture to a blind kid. If the kid pretends he can see its fun to tease him but it gets old" -Travis Romig

Only scum tease the blind. Age doesn't matter. If you know the difference between right and wrong and do this, you're scum.

This guy was using an analogy in an argument, but it makes me want to smash his face in.

The following rant is inspired by last night's Young Life club meeting.


What's the deal with guitarists who think they should be twice as loud as the bassist? Others say they can hear me, fine, but I'd like to be able to hear MYSELF once in a while. I shouldn't have to have my amplifier at full volume and need to balance it on my leg in order to hear it. When we're in a room that's slightly bigger than your average classroom and there are TWO acoustic guitarists playing the SAME thing, they don't really need to be amplified.

T4EFAN wrote:The following rant is inspired by last night's Young Life club meeting.


What's the deal with guitarists who think they should be twice as loud as the bassist? Others say they can hear me, fine, but I'd like to be able to hear MYSELF once in a while. I shouldn't have to have my amplifier at full volume and need to balance it on my leg in order to hear it. When we're in a room that's slightly bigger than your average classroom and there are TWO acoustic guitarists playing the SAME thing, they don't really need to be amplified.

You have to turn your bass amp up to play over acoustic guitars?

huh? whaaat?

Never mind. If you have a vocalist as well, the VOCALS should be the
loudest "instrument" heard.

In the meantime, some EQ will help if you're using a small amp.

Concentrate on the 400Hz, 800Hz and 1.6kHz bands. A nudge on any one
of these frequencies will bring you out from the guitars. (You have to try
all three to see which one works best in the environment you are in.)

You also want to try "dual" amplification. Connect direct to the board/PA AND
mic your amp speaker. You get the best of both worlds.

Hope that helps.

CygnusX1 wrote:

T4EFAN wrote:The following rant is inspired by last night's Young Life club meeting.


What's the deal with guitarists who think they should be twice as loud as the bassist? Others say they can hear me, fine, but I'd like to be able to hear MYSELF once in a while. I shouldn't have to have my amplifier at full volume and need to balance it on my leg in order to hear it. When we're in a room that's slightly bigger than your average classroom and there are TWO acoustic guitarists playing the SAME thing, they don't really need to be amplified.

You have to turn your bass amp up to play over acoustic guitars?

huh? whaaat?

Never mind. If you have a vocalist as well, the VOCALS should be the
loudest "instrument" heard.

In the meantime, some EQ will help if you're using a small amp.

Concentrate on the 400Hz, 800Hz and 1.6kHz bands. A nudge on any one
of these frequencies will bring you out from the guitars. (You have to try
all three to see which one works best in the environment you are in.)

You also want to try "dual" amplification. Connect direct to the board/PA AND
mic your amp speaker. You get the best of both worlds.

Hope that helps.

*blink*

Dude! You hit the nail on the head!

(I have nothing to complain about...changing the way I look at the world- sorry!)

YYZ30 wrote: (I have nothing to complain about...changing the way I
look at the world- sorry!)

Dood! Where you been?

I know... over yonder ... LOL

CygnusX1 wrote:

YYZ30 wrote: (I have nothing to complain about...changing the way I
look at the world- sorry!)

Dood! Where you been?

I know... over yonder ... LOL

To quote George Wallace "I have been busier that a one legged man in an ass kicking contest"

YYZ30 wrote:

CygnusX1 wrote:

YYZ30 wrote: (I have nothing to complain about...changing the way I
look at the world- sorry!)

Dood! Where you been?

I know... over yonder ... LOL

To quote George Wallace "I have been busier that a one legged man in an ass kicking contest"

Me too. It's the fiscal-year-end-ring-dang-doo. GAH!

CygnusX1 wrote:

T4EFAN wrote:The following rant is inspired by last night's Young Life club meeting.


What's the deal with guitarists who think they should be twice as loud as the bassist? Others say they can hear me, fine, but I'd like to be able to hear MYSELF once in a while. I shouldn't have to have my amplifier at full volume and need to balance it on my leg in order to hear it. When we're in a room that's slightly bigger than your average classroom and there are TWO acoustic guitarists playing the SAME thing, they don't really need to be amplified.

You have to turn your bass amp up to play over acoustic guitars?

huh? whaaat?

Never mind. If you have a vocalist as well, the VOCALS should be the
loudest "instrument" heard.

In the meantime, some EQ will help if you're using a small amp.

Concentrate on the 400Hz, 800Hz and 1.6kHz bands. A nudge on any one
of these frequencies will bring you out from the guitars. (You have to try
all three to see which one works best in the environment you are in.)

You also want to try "dual" amplification. Connect direct to the board/PA AND
mic your amp speaker. You get the best of both worlds.

Hope that helps.

If I turn it up to a certain volume when connected to the board (that is if they attempt to make room for me) they tell me to turn it down.

We have two vocalists singing the same thing, like those guitarists. They're usually about the same volume.

Even though we have a group of teenagers singing along (we lead it) I don't think we need all that amplification.

I'm not on an ego trip here, the bass guitar can be harder to hear due to the much lower octaves it covers and the sound of said octaves.

The above rant was after the all-county club (we have leaders and kids from the four schools in the county), but I often have the same problem with my school's club.

Also with a proper mix when you turn the main gain slowly down to silent, the last you should hear is vocals, kick and bass.


I get crap from my band about me being too loud...............I play most gigs without mics. They have amps and the PA................this is impossible. I even use smaller drumsticks and use dynamics a lot.....................what gives????

Kick? We don't have a drummer.

Walkinghairball wrote:I get crap from my band about me being too loud...............I play most gigs without mics. They have amps and the PA................this is impossible. I even use smaller drumsticks and use dynamics a lot.....................what gives????

My little Bro goes through the same thing Hairy.

He uses dynamics too (Hell, ANY drummer should use them!), but he
plays with 7A'S...

It seems to work for him.