Just a reminder to all of us during the holiday's.

Kares4Rush · Post by **Kares4Rush** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:25 pm

Walkinghairball wrote:
Kares4Rush wrote:And Nollaig Shona Dhuit! as well!
You want a nostalgic donut????

BAAHHH!!!

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:28 pm

*wink wink, nudge nudge*

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:00 pm

Did someone say FUDGE?!?!? *drools*

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:11 pm

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14949997/detail.html

What a tragedy. Maybe if this driver had read this post a family might be alive today. It is sad with all the exposure DUI gets, people still climb behind the wheel drunk. Where does it end? When will people "get it" ?

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:34 pm

Aghhhhhhhh!!!!!!

I just read about that on the Comcast site. It has to end.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:54 pm

I guess as long as humans walk the Earth, this kind of stupid stuff is going to happen. I guess

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:04 pm

There was a case last May in Rochester that really steamed a lot of people. A local blogger had this to say:

It was the victim?s fault.

An off-duty cop who?s three sheets to the wind pulls out in front of a motorcycle resulting in a wreck that kills the motorcyclist and it?s the dead guy?s fault.

That?s what the judge said yesterday.

It was the victim?s fault.

Which is screwed with a capital F.

This in reference to the case of James Telban who, at the time of the wreck, was a veteran Monroe County sheriff?s deputy. He?s been on trial over the last week for allegedly killing a young husband and father named Peter Volkmuth.

Telban had been at a country club drinking the place dry with some other deputies when he decided to leave. So he got behind the wheel of his truck, pulled to the parking lot entrance and drove out onto the road.

That?s when Mr. Volkmuth died.

And when Mr. Telban fell back on his nearly 20 years of law-enforcement experience and said, no, as a matter of fact he did not want to take a Breathalyzer test. In a situation like that, a drunk hopes that somehow his body will metabolize enough hooch before the cops can get a court order for a blood draw that his BAC will fall below the legal limit.

No such luck for Mr. Telban.

In fact, Deputy Drunkard blew ? even with the delay ? a .24. That?s .08 times three. In scientific terms, that?s drunker than hell.

And yesterday Judge Moonbeam said drunker than hell and guilty as sin weren?t the same thing. Monroe County Court Judge John ?I walked off a cliff? Connell ? deciding the matter without a jury ? said that James Telban had no responsibility in the death of Peter Volkmuth.

Peter Volkmuth, sweetheart wife at home, little boy who worshipped him, innocent guy riding his motorcycle to work, gets killed when a drunk pulls out in front of him and it?s not the drunk?s fault.

Man, that?s a special kind of stupid.

And the best expert witness money can buy. See, the accident reconstructionist from the police department measured distances and did the math and calculated speeds and testified as to what was what. Then in came some pretty boy PhD. That?s right ? piled high and deep. And he spun some theory about a mail box obstructing the view and a speeding motorcycle and, doggone it, it was the dead guy?s fault.

Expert-for-hire testified that the motorcycle was speeding and that the wreck happened because its velocity made it impossible to stop in time to avoid hitting Deputy Douchebag?s truck. So, pretty boy testified, it was the speed of the motorcycle and not the drunkenness of the defendant that caused the accident.

Of course, none of that jibed with what the professional accident analyzer said.

But the judge bought it anyway. And yesterday the felony vehicular manslaughter came back as an acquittal and a dead man ended up being a misdemeanor, some slap-on-the-wrist DWI deal.

And Peter Volkmuth?s wife fled the courtroom crying her eyes out.

And the judge ? How does a guy walk off a cliff in the backyard of a place where he?s lived for years? ? condescendingly explained in his decision that Saint Telban was as pure as the driven snow because his drinking did not cause the wreck.

Which is, of course, a word game.

We can argue about whether or not his drinking caused the wreck ? anybody with a brain knows it did ? but there can be no argument whatsoever that his drunken driving caused the wreck.

Let me say that again: Even if his drunkenness didn?t cause the wreck, his drunken driving did.

Let?s explain the terms. Drunkenness is the state of being crap faced. Drunken driving is a course of criminal conduct which involves operating a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol content above the legal limit.

James ?Killer? Telban had a blood alcohol content three times the legal limit. He was drunk. And he was driving a vehicle. He was criminally driving drunk.

And it was that criminal act that resulted in the death of Peter Volkmuth.

It doesn?t matter about mail boxes and speeds, it matters about the fact that it was an act of criminal drunk driving that moved the Telban death wagon from its parking spot at the country club out into the road where it was struck by the victim?s motorcycle. If James Telban had not broken the law, Peter Volkmuth ? no matter how fast he was going ? would still be alive.

The very act of driving ? even if he was doing so safely, even if it was not the proximate cause of the wreck ? was against the law and killed a man.

But Judge John ?How could someone get into his chambers and stab him and absolutely no one else see the assailant?? Connell decided to blame the victim.

And that?s always wrong.

And some cupcake judge is the only one who can?t see that.

God rest Peter Volkmuth. God bless his wife and little boy.

And God do something else to a court system that stands justice and common sense on its ear.

- by Bob Lonsberry ? 2007

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:45 pm

Yeah, we've the same kind of situation here with a kid driving over 100mph to outrun police while both high and drunk who killed a man. The kid was originally brought up on murder charges and it was plead down to practically nothing.

Justice often isn't.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:48 am

An off-duty cop who?s three sheets to the wind pulls out in front of a motorcycle resulting in a wreck that kills the motorcyclist and it?s the dead guy?s fault.

I'm so pissed off right now.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:13 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:
An off-duty cop who?s three sheets to the wind pulls out in front of a motorcycle resulting in a wreck that kills the motorcyclist and it?s the dead guy?s fault.
I'm so pissed off right now.

Yep. Every once in a while I hear about rogue judges like this and I just feel so powerless.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:39 am

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) -- Jane Hambleton has dubbed herself the "meanest mom on the planet."

After finding alcohol in her son's car, she decided to sell the car and share her 19-year-old's misdeed with everyone -- by placing an ad in the local newspaper.

The ad reads: "OLDS 1999 Intrigue. Totally uncool parents who obviously don't love teenage son, selling his car. Only driven for three weeks before snoopy mom who needs to get a life found booze under front seat. $3,700/offer. Call meanest mom on the planet."

Hambleton has heard from people besides interested buyers since recently placing the ad in The Des Moines Register.

The 48-year-old from Fort Dodge says she has fielded more than 70 telephone calls from emergency room technicians, nurses, school counselors and even a Georgia man who wanted to congratulate her.

"The ad cost a fortune, but you know what? I'm telling people what happened here," Hambleton says. "I'm not just gonna put the car for resale when there's nothing wrong with it, except the driver made a dumb decision.

"It's overwhelming the number of calls I've gotten from people saying 'Thank you, it's nice to see a responsible parent.' So far there are no calls from anyone saying, 'You're really strict. You're real overboard, lady."'

The only critic is her son, who Hambleton says is "very, very unhappy" with the ad and claims the alcohol was left by a passenger.

Hambleton believes her son but has decided mercy isn't the best policy in this case. She says she set two rules when she bought the car at Thanksgiving: No booze, and always keep it locked.

The car has been sold, but Hambleton says she will continue the ad for another week -- just for the feedback. E-mail to a friend

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:59 pm

Soup4Rush wrote:DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) -- Jane Hambleton has dubbed herself the "meanest mom on the planet."

After finding alcohol in her son's car, she decided to sell the car and share her 19-year-old's misdeed with everyone -- by placing an ad in the local newspaper.

The ad reads: "OLDS 1999 Intrigue. Totally uncool parents who obviously don't love teenage son, selling his car. Only driven for three weeks before snoopy mom who needs to get a life found booze under front seat. $3,700/offer. Call meanest mom on the planet."

Hambleton has heard from people besides interested buyers since recently placing the ad in The Des Moines Register.

The 48-year-old from Fort Dodge says she has fielded more than 70 telephone calls from emergency room technicians, nurses, school counselors and even a Georgia man who wanted to congratulate her.

"The ad cost a fortune, but you know what? I'm telling people what happened here," Hambleton says. "I'm not just gonna put the car for resale when there's nothing wrong with it, except the driver made a dumb decision.

"It's overwhelming the number of calls I've gotten from people saying 'Thank you, it's nice to see a responsible parent.' So far there are no calls from anyone saying, 'You're really strict. You're real overboard, lady."'

The only critic is her son, who Hambleton says is "very, very unhappy" with the ad and claims the alcohol was left by a passenger.

Hambleton believes her son but has decided mercy isn't the best policy in this case. She says she set two rules when she bought the car at Thanksgiving: No booze, and always keep it locked.

The car has been sold, but Hambleton says she will continue the ad for another week -- just for the feedback. E-mail to a friend

He made his bed, now he'll lay in it. I have ZERO sympathy for him.

Dumbass.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:10 pm

My hat's off to her.

THAT is what parenting is all about!

If I was that kid, I'd have taken a ass-whippin AND a size-
9-up-the-wazoo from my old man, but that's back when kids
respected their elders....or ELSE.

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:34 pm

Agreed.

Even if he was telling the truth, he knew better than to allow booze in his car. Rules are rules.

That will learn him to be mad at the wrong person huh????

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:40 pm

That mom rocks SOLID.

She should get a 2008 Presidential Cabinet post!!! \m/ \m/