Columbus Day and Canadian Thanksgiving

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:37 am

I am aware that some folks do not view this as a holiday. I hope you have a wonderfully normal Monday.

For anyone else;

Happy Columbus Day

And

LisaBug2112 · Post by **LisaBug2112** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:17 am

I just hate the no mail thing, specially when i am expecting stuff.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:58 pm

Yeah... if bankers get the day off, why don't I?

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:29 pm

I respect Columbus and what he did. He took a big risk and nearly

I don't blame him for all the negative things that have happened since then on this continent to the people who were here and are descended from the people who were here. Like that is really his fault!

But, I don't celebrate the day, although we've studied him. I just can't see taking the day off from school for this.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:40 pm

I don't think Columbus discovered America. I think the Indians went walking down to the beach and discovered him!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:33 am

^^^

Haha! Nice one.

So what about Amerigo Vespucci? After all, we're not living in Columbusia, so why was our country named after this Italian merchant, explorer and cartographer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

Kares4Rush · Post by **Kares4Rush** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:46 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:^^^

Haha! Nice one.

So what about Amerigo Vespucci? After all, we're not living in Columbusia, so why was our country named after this Italian merchant, explorer and cartographer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

I had that thought yesterday, BBO. I mean...really. Then there are the people who say Columbus was REALLY Spanish. Well, Italian Americans take Columbus Day as their Italian Heritage day too. (Like St. Patrick's Day but with better food!!

)

Maybe with Amerigo in there can still keep it as Italian Heritage day for sure at least.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:30 pm

Big Blue Owl wrote:^^^

Haha! Nice one.

So what about Amerigo Vespucci? After all, we're not living in Columbusia, so why was our country named after this Italian merchant, explorer and cartographer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

Because Vespucci was the one who wrote letters that were later published telling of visits to this continent and South America and which proposed the idea that these were new continents, not the ones currently known to cartograhpers, which were reprinted in all European languages and these letters came to the attention of a group that ended up naming the continents. They chose Amerigo more for the fact that he realized these were new continents than for exploration, really.

LisaBug2112 · Post by **LisaBug2112** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:56 pm

I believe the Vikings stumbled upon America after the Indians, & before the British. They just didnt record it, & were not many of them & died.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:00 pm

There are many reports of people happening upon the New World before Columbus. I guess it was just the right timing for Columbus' "discovery" to be noted, whereas the others were not.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:51 am

LisaBug2112 wrote:I believe the Vikings stumbled upon America after the Indians, & before the British. They just didnt record it, & were not many of them & died.

The vikings did record it, it is in their sagas vinland (sp) for one and they were up in newfoundland too.

Wendy · Post by **Wendy** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:26 am

Aye yes, the Vikings is my theory as well. Before that there were Asians.

By Guy Gugliotta, The Washington Post, 31 July 2001.

"Ancient peoples only loosely related to modern Asians crossed the Arctic land bridge to settle America about 15,000 years ago, according to a study offering new evidence that the Western Hemisphere hosted a more genetically diverse population at a much earlier time than previously thought."

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:14 pm

I found this National Geographic article when researching the subject;

The Most Ancient Americans

Year after year, class after class?students learned the story: The first Americans trekked from Siberia by way of the Bering land bridge. A spearpoint found at Clovis, New Mexico, dated their arrival back to 11,500 years ago. Then came the finding of Monte Verde, a Chilean site with spearpoints a thousand years older than any found before. The new site ended the old story, for glaciers covered Siberia at that time. How the earliest Americans arrived is a mystery once more.

National Geographic October 1997

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:33 pm

There is a Mormon belief that a group of people who were present at the Tower of Babel incident were lead by God to the Americas not long after the event. The story is told in the book called Ether in the Book of Mormon. If anyone is curious it can be read here:
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/1

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:49 pm

I read up to this point:

7 Coriantor was the son of Moron.
8 And Moron was the son of Ethem.

Then I realized it's time to go home so I'll finish up tomorrow.

Thanks, Elf!