By-Tor.com

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:44 am**

An hour before the race starts, here's my prediction: if MS doesn't overtake Rubens on the first corner, there'll be a "problem" of some kind with one of Rubnes's pit-stops which lets MS take the lead.

If MS does beat RB to the first corner, it'll be due to a "technical" glitch affecting RB's start.

Summary: MS will finish ahead of his team-mate, but not as a result of better driving.

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:29 pm**

Wellll...... That was interesting. Did anyone else keep count of the number of rules that got broken?

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:31 pm**

Rules? What rules?

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:36 am**

Devil's Advocate wrote:

Summary: MS will finish ahead of his team-mate, but not as a result of better driving.

you really dont like MS do you.....and how wrong you were!!

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:27 am**

schuette wrote:
Devil's Advocate wrote:

Summary: MS will finish ahead of his team-mate, but not as a result of better driving.
you really dont like MS do you.....and how wrong you were!!

No, I was right insofar as he overtook Rubens in a manner that had nothing to do with which of them was driving better.

And you may have noticed that Rubens had a "problem" with his first pit-stop.

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:47 am**

Devil's Advocate wrote:
schuette wrote:
Devil's Advocate wrote:

Summary: MS will finish ahead of his team-mate, but not as a result of better driving.
you really dont like MS do you.....and how wrong you were!!
No, I was right insofar as he overtook Rubens in a manner that had nothing to do with which of them was driving better.

And you may have noticed that Rubens had a "problem" with his first pit-stop.

aye Schuey overtook Rubens cuz Schuey was the worst driver

......and Rubens was behind Schuey at the first pitstop......

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:14 am**

schuette wrote:
Devil's Advocate wrote:
schuette wrote: you really dont like MS do you.....and how wrong you were!!
No, I was right insofar as he overtook Rubens in a manner that had nothing to do with which of them was driving better.

And you may have noticed that Rubens had a "problem" with his first pit-stop.
aye Schuey overtook Rubens cuz Schuey was the worst driver

How could he have been quicker by a margin enough to overtake from the beginning of the straight? He didn't slip-stream; if he had done the overtake would have been later (and thereby legal).

Rubens either didn't expect MS to try an illegal overtaking move, or he let Schumacher past.

......and Rubens was behind Schuey at the first pitstop......

And that "problem" ensured he stayed behind.

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:20 am**

his move was legal.......Rubens was still in front when they passed the start line..........and if Rubens wasn't expecting someone to overtake him he should pay more attention.........and that's crap about the pitstop you make it sound as if it was about 20 secs long!

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:28 am**

schuette wrote:his move was legal.......Rubens was still in front when they passed the start line..........

According to the timing computer, there was zero time difference between them. That it put Barrichello first was a mere technicality.

In any case, it's clear that Schumacher's intention was illegal.

and if Rubens wasn't expecting someone to overtake him he should pay more attention.........

If he wasn't expecting to be overtaken at that point, it's probably because it was not legal to overtake.

and that's crap about the pitstop you make it sound as if it was about 20 secs long!

The "problem" added a second or two. It was enough.

Posted: **Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:10 pm**

Hey folks, I really don't follow Formula 1, but I used to work at a race track. (Drag and Circle). But I do think the stuff is cool. Any how, my question is simple and to the point.
Who's car blew up/caught fire in the pits last weekend?
I saw a quick snippit on ESPN or whatever channel it was on.
Just wondering...............Is all involved ok. That kind of stuff.

Posted: **Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:42 pm**

Walkinghairball wrote:Hey folks, I really don't follow Formula 1, but I used to work at a race track. (Drag and Circle). But I do think the stuff is cool. Any how, my question is simple and to the point.
Who's car blew up/caught fire in the pits last weekend?
I saw a quick snippit on ESPN or whatever channel it was on.
Just wondering...............Is all involved ok. That kind of stuff.

I don't think anything like that happened in the F1 race (as far as a car catching fire). Ralf Schumacher did suffer a nasty crash during the race and was taken away in an ambulance. He's okay though, just some bumps and bruises.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:23 am**

Mark Webber's Jag went on fire but not in the pits...

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:46 am**

well DA what you gonna say about Schuey this time and how he cheated his way to a win???

With an extra pitstop to everyone else he still managed to win with a lead of 8 seconds and it seems that McLaren have actually made a step in the right direction with DC finishing 6th and Kimi 7th..
and what about that manouvre that Rubens did on Trulli at the 2nd last corner of the last lap...that was brilliant

And as earlier thought Ralf didn't escape from the crash without any injuries, he suffered two spinal fractures which is gonna put him out of racing for at least 3 month...

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:13 pm**

schuette wrote:well DA what you gonna say about Schuey this time and how he cheated his way to a win???...

Nothing. Not even Schumacher cheats every time, and I never said he did.

I thought the TV coverage was the crappiest this year. All the action was missed while the cameras followed the leaders. Zzzzzzz.

Posted: **Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:03 am**

he didn't do it in style as he never won but Schuey getting his 7th WDC is brilliant. We all knew he was gonna get it again this year but it was still good when he got it