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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:03 am
by by-tor
ElfDude wrote:Dang, that sounded like a first warning...
Maybe, but I don't hold myself to that 'one warning' rule too well. The only person to ever be banned here was warned about 5 times.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:13 am
by ElfDude
by-tor wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Dang, that sounded like a first warning...
Maybe, but I don't hold myself to that 'one warning' rule too well. The only person to ever be banned here was warned about 5 times.
And even after THAT you let me come back! You big softie!

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:17 am
by by-tor
ElfDude wrote:
by-tor wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Dang, that sounded like a first warning...
Maybe, but I don't hold myself to that 'one warning' rule too well. The only person to ever be banned here was warned about 5 times.
And even after THAT you let me come back! You big softie!
Hell, you were never banned. I'd ban ER first, since we disagree on sports. :twisted:

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:16 am
by awip2062
I thought you would ban Schu first.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:45 am
by Derek Rondinelli
nice

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:57 pm
by ElfDude
Derek Rondinelli wrote:nice
What's nice?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:39 am
by schuette
awip2062 wrote:I thought you would ban Schu first.
hey!!!...what would you all do without me..?
and I dont really want an answer to that ;-)

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:54 am
by awip2062
I would have to mail ye more. :crybaby: It would be horrid! I miss ye enough as it is.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:55 pm
by DELETED
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:57 pm
by Sir Myghin
to call yourself a messiah is very vain.
as for pain, my aunt lives a similar life to you, she has no spine left, lines in constant pain, she forsook her medication and lives sheerly on the pleasures God gives! on top of that she also raises her child whose estranged from his father for various reasons, he to has many health problems, but they live, she doesn't need a wheelchair althoguh she should ahve been in one years ago, her pain is nothing compared to her will to live, medication is not the answer as is the spirit!

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:48 pm
by Aerosmitten
Augie wrote:
...I may voluntarily leave this board permanently. ...
This may be "goodbye". I don't know yet.
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=D> \:D/ :blob: :blob5: :blob7: :headbang: :hello1: :smt112 :smt081

:hello2: :wave:

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:12 pm
by Panacea
Augie wrote: By opposing national healthcare legislation, Pres. Bush is basically holding a gun to my head and forcing me to be on welfare for the rest of my life.
I thought good jobs came with health insurance? Mine does! I don't make $200 K a year, but with four people on medications in my immediate family (hubby takes probably 10 prescriptions a month for various serious health issues) we still didn't have enough medical expenses (even counting copays) to deduct it from our taxes. From my experience and that of those I know, with an employer-subsidized insurance plan, the out-of-pocket expenses don't seem to be nearly as atrocious as your example. As far as nationalized health insurance goes, our Canadian friend has already shown it has its uses but is quite limited. Perhaps schu can shed some light on nationalized health care in her country?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:24 pm
by ElfDude
Sir Myghin wrote:to call yourself a messiah is very vain.
as for pain, my aunt lives a similar life to you, she has no spine left, lines in constant pain, she forsook her medication and lives sheerly on the pleasures God gives! on top of that she also raises her child whose estranged from his father for various reasons, he to has many health problems, but they live, she doesn't need a wheelchair althoguh she should ahve been in one years ago, her pain is nothing compared to her will to live, medication is not the answer as is the spirit!
What a brave soul! I've heard that story from others too, about family members of theirs who got so sick of what pain meds were doing to them that they stopped taking them and then learned how to live with pain (either through faith or through instructional therapy), and consequently were a lot happier. I don't know if I'd have the courage.

Fortunately for the U.S., if John Kerry is elected, according to John Edwards, people are going to get up out of their wheelchairs and walk again! Say hallelujah!

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:53 pm
by Sir Myghin
if Christopher reeves gets up and walks, i'll eat my boxers

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:30 pm
by *Lifesonite
What's wrong with being on welfare? Welfare has to do with well-being; health and financial aide.

Oh yeah, Myghin, he is a messiah. A messiah can simply be someone who claims to be a liberator :P It doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread or that he's going to turn water into wine.

It's Augie's right to fight for a better way of life as he see's it. This is what humans have done for as long as we have been around, fight for better ways of life as we see fit, be it on a lesser or a grander scale.