Al Gore's Movie

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:47 pm

My answer to Global Warming

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:54 pm

May 25, 3:37 AM EDT

Grape Damage From Frost Widespread in U.S.

By CAROLYN THOMPSON
Associated Press Writer

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- A late-April frost devastated young buds on grape vines in several western New York counties and beyond, challenging growers who had been hoping to rebound from a small crop last year.

"It was 24 degrees. That's just too cold," said grower Dennis Rak.

The National Grape Cooperative, which owns Welch's, estimated its New York state growers lost 30-33 percent of their grapes.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:55 pm

GLOBAL WARMING MY ASS

good one Soupy and Elfdude hahaha

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:58 pm

I should not make light of pollution and smog. It is a serious problem. I ain't getting rid of my gazz guzzling, smog producing 4x4 though. I can't haul my airplanes in a Toyota Prius.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:07 pm

Agreed here, but they coulda remedied this situation long ago like Brazil did...They're totally self-sufficient now...

Devil's Advocate · Post by **Devil's Advocate** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:17 pm

0.6 deg increase worldwide... local decreases here and there... Put these two together and you get:

BIG increases in places you're not looking.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:21 pm

But increase from what? With the earth cycling through warm and cool periods, what is the relative point everything is measured from? How do we know what it is supposed to be set at, so to speak?

Devil's Advocate · Post by **Devil's Advocate** » Fri May 26, 2006 3:45 am

It's possible to simulate the natural effects that cause climate change, and work out what the "proper" temperature is. Those simulations follow the actual, measured global temperature fairly well up to a few decades ago.

But since then, the real temperature hat taken a marked upwards turn that the simulations cannot reproduce - unless human activity is added to the simulations. Then they match the measured data right to to today.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:34 am

I agree with DA *Soups just trying to give DA a heart attack* Man is destroying this planet.

Devil's Advocate · Post by **Devil's Advocate** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:51 am

Um, when I said "temperature hat" in my previous post, it was a typo....

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:51 am

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:00 am

Devil's Advocate wrote:

Um, when I said "temperature hat" in my previous post, it was a typo....

There's an idea. I should suggest that my company start offering a temperature hat in the catalogue...

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:30 am

ElfDude wrote:Whoa! I just went and poked around earthfiles.com for the first time myself. My only previous visit was to read the interview I posted here. There really are some kooky things on there!

I need to go and have a look cuz I love kooky things

and I aint gonna get into this debate but man is definately killing this earth....as he has done with nearly all the animals that are extinct...

Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:50 am

CygnusX1 wrote:if I hear ONE MORE THING ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING...something's gonna get broke hahaha

Just because the temperature in your yard is cooler than norm doesn't mean that the earth isn't warming and the climate changing...

P.S. ...don't break anything important like a guitar or Rush CD

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:03 am

(((((XAN!!!)))))

cool....and no, I wouldn't DREAM of it....I'd rather eat concertina wire--then hurt my axes or Rushian materials! now THAT'S BLASPHEMY!!!!