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Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. THis just seemed like a good place to share it.

WISDOM - FROM THE MILITARY

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'If the enemy is in range, so are you.'
- Infantry Journal
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'It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed.' - US. Air Force Manual
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'Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.' - General Mac Arthur
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'You, you, and you ... Panic. The rest of you, come with me.'
- U.S. Marine Corp Gunnery Sgt.
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'Tracers work both ways.' - U.S. Army Ordnance
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'Five second fuses only last three seconds.' - Infantry Journal
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'Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once.'
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'Never tell the Platoon Sergeant you have nothing to do'
- Unknown Marine Recruit
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'If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him.'
- USAF Ammo Troop
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'Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death , I Shall Fear No Evil.
For I am at 50,000 Feet and Climbing.'
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'You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3.'
- Paul F. Crickmore (test pilot)
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'The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.'
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'If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter
-- and therefore, unsafe.'
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'When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.'
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'Even with ammunition, the USAF is just another expensive flying club.'
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'What is the similarity between air traffic controllers and pilots?
If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies;
If ATC screws up, .... The pilot dies.'
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'Never trade luck for skill.'
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The three most common expressions (or famous last words),
in aviation are:
'Why is it doing that?'
'Where are we?'
And
'Oh Puke ..!'
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'Airspeed, altitude and brains. Two are always needed to successfully complete the flight.'
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'Mankind has a perfect record in aviation;
we have never left one up there!'
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'Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it.'

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'The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world;
it can just barely kill you.' - Attributed to Max Stanley
(Northrop test pilot)
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Airman, maintain thy air speed lest the earth rise up and smite you!
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'There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime.'
Sign over squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970
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'If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to.'
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'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it
takes full power to taxi to the terminal.'
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As the test pilot climbs out of the experimental aircraft, having torn off the wings and tail in the crash landing, the crash truck arrives; the rescuer sees a bloodied pilot and asks, 'What happened?'
The pilot's reply: 'I don't know, I just got here myself!'
- Attributed to Ray Crandell
(Lockheed test pilot)

Sweet.

Those were good Elf! I've seen many of them before, but all are worth posting!

One of my favorites:

"When the pin is pulled....Mr. Grenade is not your friend."

You'll see a few of them here too:

Basic Rules of Combat


1. You are not Superman.

2. Suppressive fires - won't.

3. If it's stupid - but works - it isn't stupid.

4. Don't look conspicuous - it draws fire.

5. When in doubt, empty the magazine.

6. Never share a fighting hole with anyone braver than you are.

7. Never forget your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.

8. If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.

9. No plan survives the first contact intact.

10. All five second grenade fuses will burn in three seconds.

11. Try to look unimportant, because the bad guys may be low on ammo.

12. If you are forward of your position, the artillery will fall short.

13. The enemy diversion you are ignoring is the main attack.

14. The important things are always simple.

15. The simple things are always hard.

16. The easy way is always mined.

17. If you are short of everything except enemy, you are in combat.

18. When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.

19. Incoming fire has the right-of-way.

20. No combat-ready unit has ever passed inspection.

21. If the enemy is in range, so are you.

22. Beer math: 37 men x 2 beers each = 49 cases.

23. Body count math: 3 bad guys + 1 probable + 2 pigs = 37 enemy killed in action.

24. Friendly fire - isn't.

25. Things that must be together to work usually can't be shipped together.

26. Radios will fail as soon as you need fire support desperately.

27. Anything you do can get you shot - including doing nothing.

28. If you make it too tough for the enemy to get in - you can't get out.

29. Tracers work BOTH ways.

30. The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.

31. If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will have more than your fair share to take.

32. When both sides are convinced they are about to lose, they're both right.

33. Professional soldiers are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs.

34. Any significant military action will occur at the junction of two or more map sheets.

35. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.

36. Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you.

37. Never tell the Gunny Sergeant you have nothing to do.

USMC and USN Rules of Engagement


USMC

1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your
friends who have guns.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is
expensive.

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast
enough nor using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend.
Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a
friend with a long gun.

7. Ten years from now, no one will remember the details of caliber,
stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and
running.

9. Accuracy is relative.
Most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on
"pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the weapon.

10. Use a weapon that works every time.
All skill is in vain when an angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.

11. Someday someone may kill you with your own weapon, but they
should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

12. Always cheat; always win. If you walk away, it was a fair fight.
The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

13. Always have a plan.
13.1. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. The visible target
should be in front of your weapon.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill.
In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.

19. Decide to be aggressive enough - quickly enough.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional - But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.

23. Your best option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to
avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.


USN

1. Adopt an aggressive offshore posture.

2. Drink coffee.

3. Send in the Marines.

(Tnx to Ed Poplin & Jarrad Langley)

Dude! You forgot that the USN ALWAYS is aware of their ports of call! *shakes his head in disbelief*

zepboy wrote:Dude! You forgot that the USN ALWAYS is aware of their ports of call! *shakes his head in disbelief*

HAHAHAHA True dat Zep!

Happy Friday, shipmate.

Aye!

*Hands Siggy a pint of grog*

ThankyouSah!

***gladly accepts USN quaff and heads to Bo'sun Locker to sneak a
taste until liberty call***

I went to an airshow yesterday. As many of you are aware, yesterday was the 65th anversary of D-Day.. Four World War II era warbirds, a Mustang, WildCat, Corsair and a Sea Fury did missing man formation with taps playing to symbolize the men who lost their lives on June 6th, 1944. It brought a little lump to my throat.. But the coolest thing there had to do with the USS Indianapolis. Sigs posted something about it awhile back, I could not find it, however The Indianpolis, CA 35 delivered the Atomic Bombs and was on its way back to the Phillipines when it was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine. The crewman spent 4 or 5 horrible days and nights in the sea before they were rescued.. Anyway, there are 68 remaning survivors and 22 of them were at this airshow yesterday. I was a bit awestruck by seeing thsese guys.

Here is a link if anybody is interested.

http://www.ussindianapolis.org/mcvay.htm

Also, and Sigs may enjoy this book because he was Navy, Check out the book Time and Tide by Thomas Fleming.. It is losely based on the USS Indianpolis'journey. Its a very good read.


anyway, just wanted to share..

The captain of the first Jaws movie Quint I believe wa ssupposedly one of the crew of the Indianpolis. He mentions the feeding the sharks did on the crew.

I watched a bunch of history channel stuff over the weekend.

You know, I do remember him talking about that in the movie..

I watched Saving Private Ryan the other day..

We watched the HBO series Band of Brothers over Memorial weekend. All 10 episodes were on the History channel.

Whoa! That is freaky! I came home one day late last week and Nancy was in my house watching that cuz her DVD player was down.

"Captain Quint" would be one Robert Shaw.


Here's a bite from his biography:

Many of Captain Quint's ramblings in Jaws (1975) were actually Shaw's
improvisations, and he is considered one of many authors of the famous
USS Indianapolis scene.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001727/bio