Today's Headlines

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:32 pm

Yeah, I saw that too. Waiting to learn more.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:52 am

They're still sorting things out, but that was horrific.

Some of those warriors just got back stateside too.

My co-worker in the cube next to me came in this morning looking like
shit and told us lost his best friend there. He got the call at 4am this
morning from his friend's widow.

He couldn't deal with it alone, so he came in and we're trying to comfort
him.

I'm with Hairy....WTF?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:46 am

From the AP about 20 minutes ago:

FORT HOOD, Texas ? Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.

Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:32 am

This is pretty whacked shit guys. Sorry about your friend Cyg

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:00 am

I hope this guy get's the real deal for what he did to our brothers and sisters. Not the pansy assed swoop him from harm to a cushy place like the bastard in Iraq that grenaded and machinegunned his brothers and sisters.

That was total bullshit.

I will freak the fuck out on the government if that bleeding heart shit happens here.

Put him against a wall, and lite his ass up...................period. He don't deserve our air.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:25 am

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The unemployment rate has surpassed 10 percent for the first time since 1983 -- and is likely to go higher.

Nearly 16 million people can't find jobs even though the worst recession since the Great Depression has apparently ended. Many economists worry that persistently high unemployment could undermine the recovery by restraining consumer spending, which accounts for 70 percent of the economy.

The Labor Department said Friday that jobless rate rose to 10.2 percent, the highest since April 1983, from 9.8 percent in September. The economy shed a net total of 190,000 jobs in October, less than the downwardly revised 219,000 lost in September, but more than economists expected.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:32 am

Walkinghairball wrote:I hope this guy get's the real deal for what he did to our brothers and sisters. Not the pansy assed swoop him from harm to a cushy place like the bastard in Iraq that grenaded and machinegunned his brothers and sisters.

That was total bullshit.

I will freak the fuck out on the government if that bleeding heart shit happens here.

Put him against a wall, and lite his ass up...................period. He don't deserve our air.

I found it a little troubling that an officer in the US military was wearing muslim clothing at a 7/11. I am pretty diverse, but I just call it like I see it. Jordanian ancestry, a muslim and 13 dead American serviceman. People can label me racist, but the facts speak for themself.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:37 am

Soup4Rush wrote:
Walkinghairball wrote:I hope this guy get's the real deal for what he did to our brothers and sisters. Not the pansy assed swoop him from harm to a cushy place like the bastard in Iraq that grenaded and machinegunned his brothers and sisters.

That was total bullshit.

I will freak the fuck out on the government if that bleeding heart shit happens here.

Put him against a wall, and lite his ass up...................period. He don't deserve our air.
I found it a little troubling that an officer in the US military was wearing muslim clothing at a 7/11. I am pretty diverse, but I just call it like I see it. Jordanian ancestry, a muslim and 13 dead American serviceman. People can label me racist, but the facts speak for themself.

This is very reminiscent to me of the Trolley Square shootings here in Utah a while back. A Bosnian-born kid named Sulejman Talović goes to mosque and then goes directly from there to a public place and opens fire. The media and government simply refused to talk about motive. But the facts spoke for themselves.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:44 am

I just do not trust the Muslim religion or the people associated with it. That probably makes me a bad person but I can live with that. They probably don't like me either and I can live with that too.

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:01 am

Brother Soupy said:

I found it a little troubling that an officer in the US military was wearing muslim clothing at a 7/11. I am pretty diverse, but I just call it like I see it. Jordanian ancestry, a muslim and 13 dead American serviceman. People can label me racist, but the facts speak for themself.

Yeah, if a hate crime can be labled.........there you go. Fair is fair right????

I just do not trust the Muslim religion or the people associated with it. That probably makes me a bad person but I can live with that. They probably don't like me either and I can live with that too.

Remember what Captain Kirk said in The Undiscovered Country......."I don't trust the Klingons and I never will............I can never forgive them..... for the death of my boy."

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:38 am

I wonder if they'll let the Army give him the firing squad?

This is a wartime offense, you know.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:11 am

The ACLU would raise hell over that one Sigs..

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:22 am

I want to give a "shout-out" to NBC in Chicago...

Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting

A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for
Barack Obama

By ROBERT A. GEORGE
Updated 9:18 AM CST, Fri, Nov 6, 2009

President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to
give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the
subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.

After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas,
the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The
White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went
out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a
previously scheduled appearance.

At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president.

The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace
and perspective.

But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and
expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly
disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory
remarks.

At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of
Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers
and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional
Medal of Honor winner."

Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured
and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?

Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had
to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the
early light banter.

The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what
has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and
patience until all the facts are in.

That's the least that should occur.

Indeed, an argument could be made that Obama should have canceled
the Indian event, out of respect for people having been murdered at an
Army post a few hours before. That would have prevented any sort of
jarring emotional switch at the event.

Did the president's team not realize what sort of image they were
presenting to the country at this moment? The disconnect between what
Americans at home knew had been going on -- and the initial words
coming out of their president's mouth was jolting, if not disturbing.

It must have been disappointing for many politically aware Democrats,
still reeling from the election two days before. The New Jersey
gubernatorial vote had already demonstrated that the president and his
political team couldn't produce a winning outcome in a state very friendly
to Democrats (and where the president won by 15 points one year ago).

And now this?

Congressional Democrats must wonder if a White House that has
burdened them with a too-heavy policy agenda over the last year has a
strong enough political operation to help push that agenda through.

If the president's communications apparatus can't inform -- and protect --
their boss during tense moments when the country needs to see a
focused commander-in-chief and a compassionate head of state, it has
disastrous consequences for that president's party and supporters.

All the president's men (and women) fell down on the job Thursday.

And Democrats across the country have real reason to panic.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:25 am

^^^^^^^

I watched that video. When he finally gets to it he says, something like, "Now... we don't have all the facts..."
I half expected him to follow up with, "but I believe the military acted stupidly!"

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:38 am

ElfDude wrote:^^^^^^^

I watched that video. When he finally gets to it he says, something like, "Now... we don't have all the facts..."
I half expected him to follow up with, "but I believe the military acted stupidly!"

I can't believe who posted the article:

NBC!

In CHICAGO!