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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:58 am
by Me
Me wrote:I know I mentioned here that was a real possibility, when so much of that frigid cold water melts at the ice caps that it was going to get into the ocean currents and that we could have a flip flop effect, perhaps that's what we are seeing it's having an effect on el ni nino, la nina? One should take the long term equation when considering the overall effect and there still are many more warmer years than colder ones. The reformation of ice due to the cooler conditions this year are still far thinner than years past and all the gains made this past season may just melt away this year? I noticed for years the weather has been like a roller coaster ... warm, cold, warm, cold at first spread out over months and weeks then it got closer and closer this past year sometimes day to day. (perhaps el-nino and el nina are making babies ) I don't see anyone mentioning or explaining that obvious anomaly yet matter of fact I haven't ever even seen it mentioned. I am no scientist but I have excellent observation skills an it's very obvious that we are having a negative impact in nature. Nevertheless we are actually past due for another mini ice age as far as history and weather patterns are concern. When George Washington crossed the Delaware that was called the Winter without a summer. They got a couple of feet of snow in June and July after that year, the mini ice age started to reverse itself. At any rate we should put caution to the wind when ever it comes to our planet/plate or perhaps let evolution take it's course? For me and my personal opinion on the matter ...
evolution will win no matter, so what's the difference? As it is now, humans are like lions and sometimes kill for the fun of it. In nature there are creatures that mate for life and protect one another and usually don't eat meat ... so no eating meat, just lick it for pleasure and groom your partner for life while being protective of the herd. I see Stewie still trying to control the world .... it will be mine dam it, mine! heehee
That's about all I have to say about that and something about a box of chocolates enjoy what's there and all that. Now Stewie you know better than that, put away the dematerialize gun and eat your veggies!
I am just quoting myself to see if my new sig. shows up.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:55 am
by ElfDude
Weather Channel founder advocates suing Al Gore to expose 'the fraud of global warming.'
http://www.businessandmedia.org/article ... 75301.aspx

That's a pretty good idea. A while back when I felt sure that Al Gore would make another presidential run, I hadn't realized that he couldn't... because doing so would mean he'd actually have to debate the stuff he's been putting out.

But a lawsuit... then we could have everyone under oath, including a stream of expert witnesses. Not politicians and lobbyists, but genuine scientists giving testimony.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:01 am
by CygnusX1
ElfDude wrote:Weather Channel founder advocates suing Al Gore to expose 'the fraud of global warming.'
http://www.businessandmedia.org/article ... 75301.aspx

That's a pretty good idea. A while back when I felt sure that Al Gore would make another presidential run, I hadn't realized that he couldn't... because doing so would mean he'd actually have to debate the stuff he's been putting out.

But a lawsuit... then we could have everyone under oath, including a stream of expert witnesses. Not politicians and lobbyists, but genuine scientists giving testimony.
You know, I'll even bet he didn't invent the internet either!

SCANDAL! SCANDAL! :shock:

"Yeaaaaaahhh Al, Nobel Institute here."

You mind sending that Nobel Prize money back?

Yeaaaaahhh...thaaaaaanks."
:P

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:19 am
by Big Blue Owl
Right on! Good! Then, one way or another we can all STFU about global warming and either skip merrily down Wonderful Weather Lane or mentally prepare ourselves and children for a scorchin'.
'Course, with no way to actually tell the future, we're still boned. This will probably be just another spend-fest that leads to nothing more than one side or another's politically charged revenge satisfied.
In other words, waste of time, waste of money.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:27 am
by ElfDude
Big Blue Owl wrote: This will probably be just another spend-fest that leads to nothing more than one side or another's politically charged revenge satisfied.
In other words, waste of time, waste of money.
I can't predict the future either. But my guess is that the suit will never happen.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:38 am
by ElfDude
Big Blue Owl wrote:Right on! Good! Then, one way or another we can all STFU about global warming and either skip merrily down Wonderful Weather Lane or mentally prepare ourselves and children for a scorchin'.
'Course, with no way to actually tell the future, we're still boned. This will probably be just another spend-fest that leads to nothing more than one side or another's politically charged revenge satisfied.
In other words, waste of time, waste of money.
A little more info on the subject.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337710,00.html

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:00 am
by ElfDude
Stumbled upon an interesting old quote this morning.

In 1890, famous American geologist T.C. Chamberlin penned the following perspicacious description of the obligations of a scientist to maintain disinterest at all times.
"The moment one has offered an original explanation for a phenomenon which seems satisfactory, that moment affection for his intellectual child springs into existence, and as the explanation grows into a definite theory his parental affections cluster about his offspring and it grows more dear to him...As this parental affection takes possession of the mind, there is a rapid passage to the adoption of the theory. There is an unconscious selection and magnifying of phenomena that fall into harmony with the theory and support it, and an unconscious neglect of those that fail of coincidence...

When these biasing tendencies set in, the mind rapidly degenerates into the partiality of paternalism. The search for facts, the observation of phenomena and their interpretation, are all dominated by affection for the favored theory until it appears to its author or its advocate to have been overwhelmingly established. The theory then rapidly rises to the ruling position, and investigation, observation, and interpretation are controlled and directed by it. From an unduly favored child, it readily becomes master, and leads its author whithersoever it will...

When the last stage has been reached, unless the theory happens, perchance, to be the true one, all hope of the best results is gone."
Has global warming hype reached Chamberlin's "last stage"?

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:36 am
by CygnusX1
ElfDude wrote:Famous American geologist T.C. Chamberlin penned the following perspicacious description of the obligations of a scientist to maintain disinterest at all times.

***Siggy's Ten-Dollar-Word Vocabulary Translator***

Perspicacious: adjective

1. having keen mental perception and understanding; discerning:
to exhibit perspicacious judgment.
2. Archaic. having keen vision.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:40 am
by Walkinghairball
CygnusX1 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Famous American geologist T.C. Chamberlin penned the following perspicacious description of the obligations of a scientist to maintain disinterest at all times.

***Siggy's Ten-Dollar-Word Vocabulary Translator***

Perspicacious: adjective

1. having keen mental perception and understanding; discerning:
to exhibit perspicacious judgment.
2. Archaic. having keen vision.
That will make Soupy happy you did that Cyg.

It helped me too. :-)

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:46 am
by CygnusX1
Just doin' my part for all of us public-schooled maggots HB.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have windshields to clean at the
traffic signal. :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:49 am
by Walkinghairball
I'll get the oranges!!! :razz:

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:52 am
by CygnusX1
Walkinghairball wrote:I'll get the oranges!!! :razz:
LMAOROFL! mira! mira! hahaha

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:54 am
by awip2062
Walkinghairball wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Famous American geologist T.C. Chamberlin penned the following perspicacious description of the obligations of a scientist to maintain disinterest at all times.

***Siggy's Ten-Dollar-Word Vocabulary Translator***

Perspicacious: adjective

1. having keen mental perception and understanding; discerning:
to exhibit perspicacious judgment.
2. Archaic. having keen vision.
That will make Soupy happy you did that Cyg.

It helped me too. :-)
See? this just proves that Siggy is perspicacious! :-) He knew what was needed and he provided it for us!

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:02 am
by CygnusX1
awip2062 wrote:
Walkinghairball wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:
***Siggy's Ten-Dollar-Word Vocabulary Translator***

Perspicacious: adjective

1. having keen mental perception and understanding; discerning:
to exhibit perspicacious judgment.
2. Archaic. having keen vision.
That will make Soupy happy you did that Cyg.

It helped me too. :-)
See? this just proves that Siggy is perspicacious! :-) He knew what was needed and he provided it for us!
I concur, but I don't want to seem vociferous.



Vociferous: adjective


1. crying out noisily; clamorous.

2. characterized by or uttered with vociferation: a vociferous manner of expression.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:13 am
by ElfDude
Dang it, Chamberlin made a great point and you guys...

... oh well. :-D