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Bill Clinton, out stumping for his wife, said that we need to slow down our economy in order to stop global warming.

He did confuse me immensely with this quote from his speech:

The only places in the world today in rich countries where you have rising wages and declining inequality are places that have generated more jobs than rich countries because they made a commitment we didn't.

Hunh?

That's an odd bit of verbage...

Was he talking about a commitment to the curbing of global warming?

Ummm...maybe.

But how can you have places in rich countries that are generating more jobs than rich countries because those places (in rich countries) made commitments that they didn't?

*is still confused*

Oh well... it's the thought that counts.

Sounds like he was hopped up on goofballs again.

Big Blue Owl wrote:Sounds like he was hopped up on goofballs again.

Why did that strike me so funny? I'm giggling and giggling over here!

Well, it can't be because you are a goofball...

By BOB SMIETANA
Staff Writer - THE TENNESSEAN

With a green-colored Bible in one hand and his familiar red laser pointer in the other, former vice president and Nobel prize winner Al Gore led 2,500 Baptist preachers and lay leaders through his global warming slide show in Atlanta Thursday.

Sounding more like an evangelist than a politician, Gore drew upon Scripture, science and a Sunday school teacher from his home church to urge Baptists to do whatever they could to fight global warming.

"If we heap contempt on God's creation, that is inconsistent with glorifying God," he said.

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Gore asked his listeners, whether Republican or Democrat, to pressure presidential candidates to stop talking and act on global warming. When asked for specific suggestions, Gore told them to pressure politicians to approve a new global climate treaty and to push for a carbon tax.

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Robert Parham, executive director of the Nashville-based Baptist Center for Ethics, called Gore a "Baptist prophet." In introducing Gore, Parham said, "prophets are unacceptable because their truth is inconvenient."

The "prophet" has spoken. It is a sin. And it needs to be taxed.

*tries to recall a tax in Scripture that was levied on some sin*

I can recall sacrifices that were required, but the taxes were never required for sin. Oh well, no matter, different times, different goings on.

I must say I do agree with this:

"If we heap contempt on God's creation, that is inconsistent with glorifying God,"

But that still doesn't mean I believe that we are all responsible for what he claims we have done.

Well, with the little scientific understanding I have, I cannot agree that Al Gore is accurate in his blame for the global warming phenomenon. In fact, I cannot even agree there is indeed a significant degree of global warming going on. Key on the word "global," and it doesn't hold water.

Then, if there were indeed actual warming, I cannot agree that mankind is primarily responsible. For instance, the Amazon Rain Forest is adding a marked amount of greenhouse gasses by the increasing rate of decomposition it has undergone over the past hundred years. It has long since surpasses its beneficial effects on the environment. There are many other natural impacts adding to alleged warming that would take place whether man were on the planet or not.

Can mankind make a dent in reversing what some people think they are seeing? Maybe, but I am sure it would be almost non-consequential at best.

It's human nature to try, though. If the alternative is extinction, the melting, flooding and destruction of our planet, what better way to spend our time than attempting to clean up as much as we can?

What good will billions in corporate profits be to our economy if the temperature continues to climb, polar ice melts and the seas rise to flood and drown everyone and everything?

Six steps to Hell
http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments ... 01,00.html

BBO, your statement reminds me of something...

If I hear you right, you're basically saying, "Maybe it is man-made, maybe it isn't. I don't really know. But how can we afford to take that chance? If taking certain actions might fix global warming, shouldn't we be taking them?"

Am I getting it?

This is a lot like Pascal's theorum. Pascal basically said that if he were to live his life as a the best Christian he could be... and then die only to find that there was no God, he would have lost nothing. But if he were to ignore Christ, God's law, etc. and then die only to find that it was all true, he would have lost everything.

Apparently this line of thinking isn't very persuasive or pretty much everybody on this forum would be striving to be the best Christians they could be.

In addition, I keep looking at Al Gore and how he chooses to live and thinking that if he really believed there was a chance that changing our lifestyle would help the earth, he would change his lifestyle.

It doesn't make sense that he would keep up the way he is living even with the carbon offsets he buys himself or puts in place because he knows that there are tons of people on the planet who will never reduce their carbon footprint and those who know the "truth" need to do all they can themselves to offset the nonbelievers' lives.

After all he himself was urging Baptists to do whatever they could to fight global warming.

ElfDude wrote:BBO, your statement reminds me of something...

If I hear you right, you're basically saying, "Maybe it is man-made, maybe it isn't. I don't really know. But how can we afford to take that chance? If taking certain actions might fix global warming, shouldn't we be taking them?"

Am I getting it?

That is it exactly.

From t - "In addition, I keep looking at Al Gore and how he chooses to live and thinking that if he really believed there was a chance that changing our lifestyle would help the earth, he would change his lifestyle."

Yeah, he is probably a putz. He really doesn't matter, though. It's convincing those who know what's best for us to redesign (or just make available) automobiles to not emit carbon. Losing the theory that every business has that, "If I'm not bigger and more profitable every year, I'm failing."
I'm slowly creating ways in my own life to shrink my footprint, but unless/until it becomes everybody's habit it will not matter, and when we finally decide that there is nothing more important than "Clean-up Time", it may be too late to reverse.

Please read/watch "Six degrees could change our world."

How is it that cheeseburgers consumed by Americans have a larger carbon footprint than all the SUVs in America? And how can we play our part in stopping climate change?

These are the questions being posed in the special Six Degrees Could Change Our World airing on the National Geographic Channel February 24th at 7 p.m. The documentary, featuring British author Mark Lynas and other notable climate experts, explores what effect each rise of 1?C could have on the world and what must be done to reduce the threat.

Some predictions include:

* At 2?C higher: Greenland?s glaciers and some of the lower lying islands begin to disappear.
* At 3?C higher: Ice would no longer be found in the Arctic during the summer months, the Amazon rainforest would suffer a devastating drought, and extreme weather patterns would become frequent.
* At 4?C higher: Oceans rise dramatically causing extreme flooding.
* At 5?C higher: What scientists call the ?twilight zone? of climate change, temperate regions could become uninhabitable, leading humans to battle each other for the world?s dwindling resources.
* At 6?C higher: Scientists call this the ?doomsday scenario? because oceans become marine wastelands, deserts expand and catastrophic events become commonplace.

Click this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4al4i ... shortfilms

15 degrees this morning...

If I hear one more thing about global warming...


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