Today's Headlines

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:32 pm

Everyone get your handbaskets ready.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:34 pm

I'm sittin' in mine!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:45 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote:The U.S. military has not confirmed the attack, but an American official ? who would not be identified but has access to U.S. intelligence ? told CNN on Monday that U.S. forces had conducted a ?successful? strike into Syria on Sunday to kill a suspected al Qaeda facilitator believed be smuggling money, weapons and foreign fighters in to Iraq.

The intended target of the attack was ?Abu Ghadiya?, an Iraqi whose family has been active in smuggling across the Syrian border for ?some time,? the U.S. official told CNN.
Doesn't sound like a blunder...

Yes, if you take that bit out and listen only to the accused, I can see how it can be spun into a heroic mission accomplished. It does happen, though. Bad info, poor planning. A hundred things can go wrong. I am just weary of us, as a basically good and sometimes even great people not taking responsibility for actions. For Ged's sake, if we killed innocent men, women and children, I feel horrible and want to express our sadness and sorrow for this heroic act or blunder, however one chooses to look at it, not clutch at straws to try to justify it. That's all I'm sayin', sayin'?

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:53 pm

Ok, I'm not saying we did right or wrong, but any time a mission like this happens, the target people will pull the victim card wether or not they were being Slim Shady............sayin.

I hope the bottom is gotten to, and I hold on to my handbasket.....just in case.

My 2 pennies.

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:09 pm

Big Blue Owl wrote: For Ged's sake, if we killed innocent men, women and children, I feel horrible and want to express our sadness and sorrow for this heroic act or blunder, however one chooses to look at it, not clutch at straws to try to justify it. That's all I'm sayin', sayin'?

My two cents . . . these people in other countries don't view the world the same as we do, and they take full advantage of this fact. They intentionally recruit women and children in order to play upon our sympathies. Here, we would never use these kind of people in order to commit the horrible terrorist acts we see them commit. In our ignorance, we assume they wouldn't either. When legitimate women and children terrorists are taken out, they can accuse us of violating our own mandates of civility. But, folks, they do not play by the same rules. They are fully aware of this fundamental difference, and they use it to pull us apart internally.

They use women and children for the sole purpose of being able to accuse the United States of violating international humanitarian law. DUH!!!

That's all I'm sayin'

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:13 pm

Closer to home, the Nazis are starting...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_ ... nhead_plot

WASHINGTON ? Two white supremacists allegedly plotted to go on a national killing spree, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, federal authorities said Monday.

In all, the two men whom officials describe as neo-Nazi skinheads planned to kill 88 people ? 14 by beheading, according to documents unsealed in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The spree, which initially targeted an unidentified predominantly African-American school, was to end with the two men driving toward Obama, "shooting at him from the windows," the court documents show....

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:24 pm

A couple of loons. Thank God they were found out.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:31 am

zepboy wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote: For Ged's sake, if we killed innocent men, women and children, I feel horrible and want to express our sadness and sorrow for this heroic act or blunder, however one chooses to look at it, not clutch at straws to try to justify it. That's all I'm sayin', sayin'?
My two cents . . . these people in other countries don't view the world the same as we do, and they take full advantage of this fact. They intentionally recruit women and children in order to play upon our sympathies. Here, we would never use these kind of people in order to commit the horrible terrorist acts we see them commit. In our ignorance, we assume they wouldn't either. When legitimate women and children terrorists are taken out, they can accuse us of violating our own mandates of civility. But, folks, they do not play by the same rules. They are fully aware of this fundamental difference, and they use it to pull us apart internally.

They use women and children for the sole purpose of being able to accuse the United States of violating international humanitarian law. DUH!!!

That's all I'm sayin'

I respect every word you said, Zep...except Duh. Duh was a bit much. I'm not ignorant (a lot of things but not that.) But what you say may come dangerously close to "we can never be wrong. We have no remorse for anything. So what if a few non-enemy people die., etc. and if you think otherwise you're an ignoramus." Where have I heard that before?

Still, we're seemingly "not great" if we're not killing people somewhere or another. Maybe if we were spending that 10 billion per week at home on building us up we wouldn't be in such a mess. To hell with "over there." Let them eat sand.

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:16 am

Well said. That's what I love about having you around here. You point things out well.

Nonetheless, if we focus entirely on keeping everything at home and let them worry about their own sand, there is a good chance that we won't have a home to focus on. I have no doubt that they would take us if we turn our backs on them and let them get strong enough. After all, it is the clear mission of some to rid the world of the "infidel."

As far as not being concerned about the innocents who become entangled in the ugliness of war . . . well, that is something we must all accept. With the fallen nature of man, war is an element of society we will never be without. Though we should never relish in the loss of innocent life, we must come to terms with the fact that it comes with sharing the planet with more than one person. Though it may be considered cold by some, it is, nonetheless, a reality.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:21 am

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:39 am

From the MORE NEWS YOU WON'T SEE ON
MAINSTREAM TV desk:

Paratroopers from Fort Bragg dropped into a North Carolina town to
present a wounded veteran with keys to a new home.

http://pentagontv.feedroom.com/?fr_stor ... 394&rf=rss

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:40 am

What awesome fun!

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:50 am

CygnusX1 wrote:From the MORE NEWS YOU WON'T SEE ON
MAINSTREAM TV desk:

Paratroopers from Fort Bragg dropped into a North Carolina town to
present a wounded veteran with keys to a new home.

http://pentagontv.feedroom.com/?fr_stor ... 394&rf=rss

Good thing MSNBC didn't report on it. They would have had to throw in some stuff about how they broke into the homes of civilians, terrorizing and shooting them...

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:57 am

ElfDude wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:From the MORE NEWS YOU WON'T SEE ON
MAINSTREAM TV desk:

Paratroopers from Fort Bragg dropped into a North Carolina town to
present a wounded veteran with keys to a new home.

http://pentagontv.feedroom.com/?fr_stor ... 394&rf=rss
Good thing MSNBC didn't report on it. They would have had to throw in some stuff about how they broke into the homes of civilians, terrorizing and shooting them...

MSNBC, NBC and CNN are the devil.

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:18 pm

That is very cool.