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ElfDude wrote:

Big Blue Owl wrote:

Whoa there Big Daddy! Not fair Mon Fraire! You can find that right down
YOUR street. Right down MY street....
IN WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA FOR PETE'S SAKE!

Agreed big time, but it is much more widely accepted as a way of life under the "belt." Sad, but true.

That just freaks me out to hear. I must really be surrounded by good people. I simply don't know folk like that. Or if I do, they wouldn't say it in front of me.

Utah is an exception. I think Utah coined the phrase, "Killed with kindness." This is a place I think that I would LOVE to live in. Happy people make me happy.
Opinion alert!: Utah is voting for McCain/Palin for a different reason than the issue of race, or color.

Because of Glenn Beck?

awip2062 wrote:Because of Glenn Beck?

Glenn lives in Connecticut...

Yes, he does, but he sure is liked in Utah.

CygnusX1 wrote:

Big Blue Owl wrote:What woopsies do you refer to?

"Sharing the wealth" for one, and the soon-to-be-exposed "free ride to
your new drivers license" for illegal aliens.

People are already pissed about the handouts, but the license issue
should put McCain in the drivers seat by E-day.

This is incredible.

As you may remember, I wanna hit illegal ALIENS with a hammer, so this license thing is sickening me. This is the first I've heard about it and if it is true there will be one thing that I disagree with Obama about. As to sharing the wealth...I think that will resonate positively with a much larger section of the country than you may think. How many of us here are making a 1/4 million a year? Sure, we'd like to, but we'd also like for our sons and daughters to not have to spend their best years paying back our debts (they will have to anyway). Joe "the unpaid taxes, no license to plumb, better off with Obama's plan Plumber" hiccup was weak to begin with and is now a pitiful attempt at defaming Obama. With all of the nonsense desperate fiascoes that have already been perpetrated in the last lengths of this competition, I just sit back and wait for the next and the next and the next bit of fluff that Repubs think is a dire, scary, risky character trait or action by our newest ruiner from the left. It's good comedy, really.

Just take the modern, pleasant-tasting medicine if you wanna get better, or keep taking that old Castor oil and possibly wretch yourself back to health...maybe not.

awip2062 wrote:Because of Glenn Beck?

No, I was referring to an overwhelming religious population (I can hear Elf scrambling for the correct data ), and that is just a feeling I get, not a thought that I have.
And another feeling that I get is that Obama being a Christian is not enough.

Well, I did say that tongue-in-cheek. I dont' really think Utah voters will go for a candidate strictly because of a radio show host, although Glenn may influence some.

But, I do agree, Obama being Christian isn't enough. Especially since so many don't think he is a Christian. There, as a matter of fact, Obama and a number of voters in Utah are alike, as many people don't think they are Christians either!

It doesn't matter if Joe the plumber is the biggest fraud ever... he's not important. What's important is what Obama said to him. And if it resonates with people, that scares me. Redistribution of wealth is SO in the face of our founders ideals and of our Constitution...

Government-mandated redistribution of wealth is tyranny.

I agree with that. It smacks of communism. But we're not talking about leveling the forest to make all even. Just easing off of the tax breaks for the wealthy and businesses that ship jobs overseas and giving them to those that haven't seen a break in 8 years. I don't think it'll hurt as much as ya think. I think it will help us as a whole to rise up a bit. If the lesser of us go down, the pretty flowers that grow up out of we composties will also wither and topple over. Gotta keep the base healthy first.
Good analogy?

Well, truthfully, I don't trust any of them. As you know, I think the bail-out was wrong. I don't think that we will have someone in the White House or someones in Congress helping us. I think they will sell-out to the special interests and those who are screwing us, again, as they did with the bail-out.

History demonstrates well that raising taxes on anyone hurts everyone.

JFK had it right.

"In short, it is a paradoxical truth that ... the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. The experience of a number of European countries and Japan have borne this out. This country's own experience with tax reduction in 1954 has borne this out. And the reason is that only full employment can balance the budget, and tax reduction can pave the way to that employment. The purpose of cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
? John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, news conference

Democrats! What do they know?

awip2062 wrote:Democrats! What do they know?

I'm guessing you meant to throw in a wink there?

I was being silly, yes.