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Correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause I'm bound to be, but isn't the root of the word "conservative" "conserve?" Given the choice to use a 13 watt energy saver bulb that gives relatively the same light (not heat, use a heating device for heat, yeah?) as a 60 or 75 watt bulb to save money and energy, why wouldn't one? Do we have to be forced to do the right thing, or is it just in our nature to abandon antiquated methods and products for more efficient, human and earth-friendly inventions?

Does this mean I'm a conservative? I hate illegals too, that certainly should qualify me!

Big Blue Owl wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause I'm bound to be...

Sorry had to do it.

The only thing about the "Swirly lights" I don't like is the warm up time to get the same light as the regular bulbs. We have used both kinds for a number of years and they are good for the 'Conserve part'.


Other than that, they suck.


I want to see when I throw the switch, not a few seconds after the fact.

If we're going to take the conservationist standpoint, a new problem is arising because of increased "swirly light" use... the landfills don't know what to do with them because of their mercury content. By banning regular bulbs the govt has just created a new problem, in addition to taking another step towards totalitarianism.

Sorry to turn a thread in "General" into one that belongs in "Political"

ElfDude wrote:If we're going to take the conservationist standpoint, a new problem is arising because of increased "swirly light" use... the landfills don't know what to do with them because of their mercury content. By banning regular bulbs the govt has just created a new problem, in addition to taking another step towards totalitarianism.

Sorry to turn a thread in "General" into one that belongs in "Political"

I dont think you did that. I think you brought up some good points. Sometimes that happens in conversations (or on this board we go off topic quite a bit) I dont think it needs to be moved....

Compact flourescents may also interfere with various remote controls
for TV's, DVD's etc.

I brought up some good points as well, whether you are opposed to them or not, and all I got was some Japanese urchin pointing at me accusingly

Ah, well.

Big Blue Owl wrote:I brought up some good points as well, whether you are opposed to them or not, and all I got was some Japanese urchin pointing at me accusingly

Ah, well.

You said you were wrong, and hes pointing and laughing with the words "you fail" I was just joking and bringing your point home.

I know. I did laugh. Jus' sayin.'

Big Blue Owl wrote:I brought up some good points as well, whether you are opposed to them or not, and all I got was some Japanese urchin pointing at me accusingly

Ah, well.

We don' pay 'ttention to you no mo.

Dig that

Big Blue Owl wrote:Dig that

*hugs BBO... in a manly way*

ElfDude wrote:

Big Blue Owl wrote:I brought up some good points as well, whether you are opposed to them or not, and all I got was some Japanese urchin pointing at me accusingly

Ah, well.

We don' pay 'ttention to you no mo.

Hey! I thought I was the only one!

Suh-WEEET.

I could use the company Owlie.

Don't let the door hit'cha-where-the-good-Lord-split'cha.

This is a tuff room. Buck up and hand me a brewski....

We'll toss empties at the screen.

CygnusX1 wrote: Hey! I thought I was the only one!

*chairshots Siggy*

Oops wrong thread...carry on.

Did someone say something?