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awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:27 am

The upper quote is not from Wikipedia, if that matters at all, Elfie.

As for "copies of the Book of Mormon", that would be correct along with "Books of Mormon". Sure, the copyrighted name is "Book of Mormon", but, again, only one Mormon was a part of it.

*razz*

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:34 am

awip2062 wrote:The upper quote is not from Wikipedia, if that matters at all, Elfie.

As for "copies of the Book of Mormon", that would be correct along with "Books of Mormon". Sure, the copyrighted name is "Book of Mormon", but, again, only one Mormon was a part of it.

*razz*

I disagree. If the title of a book was "Table of Wood", it would not be correct to say, "How many Tables of Wood did you sell today?"...
One would say, "How many Table of Woods did you sell today?".

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:39 am

No, I'd say, "How many copies of Table of Wood did you sell today?" because I would not be asking how many tables or how many woods.

But, the fact is, that the missionaries are giving out multiple copies of the book that Mormon saved records for, right? Therefore, Books of Mormon.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:41 am

awip2062 wrote:No, I'd say, "How many copies of Table of Wood did you sell today?" because I would not be asking how many tables or how many woods.

But, the fact is, that the missionaries are giving out multiple copies of the book that Mormon saved records for, right? Therefore, Books of Mormon.

Wrong.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:43 am

Okay, so they are not giving out multiple copies of that book.

*razz*

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:47 am

Heh.

Okay, you weren't talking about how many tables or woods. You were talking about a book. A book with a title. A copyrighted title. You don't change that title to make your grammar sound better. Should you refer to the title directly without throwing in "copies of" in front of it, you don't change the title. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:48 am

I'll let you stick to it. You make a good point.

But I am still going to call them BOOKS of Mormon.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:58 am

awip2062 wrote:I'll let you stick to it. You make a good point.

But I am still going to call them BOOKS of Mormon.

Good thing we don't talk about them much.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:00 pm

That we don't.

But that could change!

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:06 pm

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 8, 2008; C01

MSNBC is removing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as the anchors of live political events, bowing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as neutral in the heat of the presidential campaign.

Finally!

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:40 pm

FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. ? Barack Obama objected to reports Monday that the ousted heads of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may receive lucrative severance packages and asked the Bush administration to ensure their "poor leadership" isn't rewarded.

"Under no circumstances should the executives of these institutions earn a windfall at a time when the U.S. Treasury has taken unprecedented steps to rescue these companies with taxpayer resources," Obama said in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart. "I urge you immediately to clarify that the agreement with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac voids any such inappropriate windfall payments to outgoing CEOs and senior management."

Ditto that, Senator Obama! I'm with you 100% on this one. These guys were way worse than the crooked Enron execs and ought to be punished, not rewarded.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:01 am

ElfDude wrote:
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 8, 2008; C01

MSNBC is removing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as the anchors of live political events, bowing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as neutral in the heat of the presidential campaign.
Finally!

EVERYBODY knows that NBC and MSNBC are clearly left-leaning and in
the tank with the liberals. (Even the public-schooled redneck typing this post!)

Getting rid of Chris "Softball" Matthews and Olbermann was just NBC's
way of admitting liberal bias.

NBC lost a lot of trust of the people yesterday.

What's Glenn Beck sayin' about it?

I'm interested to hear his take.

O'Reilly is doing "I told you so" backflips...while, at the same time evascerating
MSNBC for their dismal cable news ratings.

I guess we really do reap what we sow.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:16 am

ElfDude wrote:
FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. ? Barack Obama objected to reports Monday that the ousted heads of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may receive lucrative severance packages and asked the Bush administration to ensure their "poor leadership" isn't rewarded.

"Under no circumstances should the executives of these institutions earn a windfall at a time when the U.S. Treasury has taken unprecedented steps to rescue these companies with taxpayer resources," Obama said in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart. "I urge you immediately to clarify that the agreement with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac voids any such inappropriate windfall payments to outgoing CEOs and senior management."
Ditto that, Senator Obama! I'm with you 100% on this one. These guys were way worse than the crooked Enron execs and ought to be punished, not rewarded.

I'm in too Elf. One of the only things Obama has said that I agree with
too.

If I heard correctly, one CEO (Freddy) has $6M waiting on him and another (Fannie) a cool $15M?

Somebody remind me please....when the gov't assumes control of a
company's assets, that means ALL their assets, right?

Surely they're not gonna let a couple of white-collar thieves cut and run..
are they?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:57 am

CygnusX1 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. ? Barack Obama objected to reports Monday that the ousted heads of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may receive lucrative severance packages and asked the Bush administration to ensure their "poor leadership" isn't rewarded.

"Under no circumstances should the executives of these institutions earn a windfall at a time when the U.S. Treasury has taken unprecedented steps to rescue these companies with taxpayer resources," Obama said in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Housing Finance Agency Director James Lockhart. "I urge you immediately to clarify that the agreement with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac voids any such inappropriate windfall payments to outgoing CEOs and senior management."
Ditto that, Senator Obama! I'm with you 100% on this one. These guys were way worse than the crooked Enron execs and ought to be punished, not rewarded.
I'm in too Elf. One of the only things Obama has said that I agree with
too.

If I heard correctly, one CEO (Freddy) has $6M waiting on him and another (Fannie) a cool $15M?

Somebody remind me please....when the gov't assumes control of a
company's assets, that means ALL their assets, right?

Surely they're not gonna let a couple of white-collar thieves cut and run..
are they?

My man Glenn is sorry that they were removed from the positions. His feeling was that, rather than remove them, NBC should have simply called their appearances "opinion pieces", like his show. He doesn't claim to have a news show... he has an opinion show. And a number of people watched those guys to hear their opinions. Had NBC simply ended the pretense no one would have had to lose their positions or airtime.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:03 am

ElfDude wrote:My man Glenn is sorry that they were removed from
the positions. His feeling was that, rather than remove them, NBC should
have simply called their appearances "opinion pieces", like his show. He
doesn't claim to have a news show... he has an opinion show.

Right on.