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Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:33 pm

Watch CSPAN-2 you guys.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Can't. At work.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:01 pm

Xanadu wrote:Watch CSPAN-2 you guys.

I don't have cable. What are they saying?

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:11 am

Vanny! Help us out. Be less vague!

Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:46 am

LOL...damn...there was a Ron Paul rally on there all day and they had some AWESOME speakers...then at 8ET, Ron Paul gave a speech...I wasn't home but had it recorded.

Look for it on youtube, I'm sure somebody will post it soon,

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:38 am

Ah, Ron Paul.

How's he doing, anyway?

Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:29 am

He's working on changing the republican party back to what it used to be by educating peeps. The revolution is going strong!

You can see some of the vids here:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

Oh and one of his goals is "Developing materials for homeschooling families, to help them educate their children in history, sound economics, and related fields."

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:39 am

Xanadu wrote:He's working on changing the republican party back to what it used to be by educating peeps.

Very good! Republican nominee John McCain represents what the Democrat party used to be in my grandfather's day.

Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:52 am

ElfDude wrote:Very good! Republican nominee John McCain represents what the Democrat party used to be in my grandfather's day.

Very scary!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:20 am

They named themselves the "Democratic party." Unless it's correct to say, "Republic party."

BTW, nude pic of Sarah Palin in the Adult section.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:40 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:They named themselves the "Democratic party." Unless it's correct to say, "Republic party."

BTW, nude pic of Sarah Palin in the Adult section.

They're Republicans and Democrats, not Republics and Democratics.
The party of the Republicans and the party of the Democrats.
The Republican party and the Democrat party.
*shrugs*

Is the pic for real or is it a photoshop job? You sure found an interesting one of McCain (though I couldn't tell which one was him)!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:51 am

ElfDude wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote:They named themselves the "Democratic party." Unless it's correct to say, "Republic party."

BTW, nude pic of Sarah Palin in the Adult section.
They're Republicans and Democrats, not Republics and Democratics.
The party of the Republicans and the party of the Democrats.
The Republican party and the Democrat party.
*shrugs*

Yeah, I guess it's not important. Just feels like a righty slighty.

The Palin pic is represented as authentic. I can't swear to it, though. It's not a photoshop, but the pic is not very "new" and is displayed with others that leave the viewer to decide for him/herself.

McCain is on the left.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:06 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:
Yeah, I guess it's not important. Just feels like a righty slighty.

It shouldn't... unless there's shame associated with the word "Democrat".
Truth is, I'm just bitter that it's not Whigs and Torries anymore!

I do want to be correct though. If one of the school teachers who knows her English better than I wants to chime in I will happily defer. Pan? awip?

This is WAY off topic, but in LDS circles (particularly among missionaries) a similar debate takes place. Someone may say, "How many Book of Mormons did you give away today?" The response then comes, "It's 'Books of Mormon', not 'Book of Mormons'!" And the arguement ensues.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:12 am

Here ya go, guys!

Kenneth G. Wilson (1923?). The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. 1993.

Democrat (adj., n.), Democratic (adj.)

The proper noun is the name of a member of a major American political party; the adjective Democratic is used in its official name, the Democratic party. Democrat as an adjective is still sometimes used by some twentieth-century Republicans as a campaign tool but was used with particular virulence by the late senator Joseph R. McCarthy of Wisconsin, a Republican who sought by repeatedly calling it the Democrat party to deny it any possible benefit of the suggestion that it might also be democratic. Other nations also have political parties with the words Democrat and Democratic in their names. The uncapitalized words democrat and democratic have to do with believers in and supporters of government based on majority rule, the principles of equal rights, and the representative procedures developed to permit these principles to operate. Capitalize only the proper noun and the adjective when it refers to the Democratic party.

And from Wikipedia

Initially calling itself the "Republican Party," Jeffersonians were labeled "Democratic" by the opposition Federalists, with the hope of stigmatizing them as purveyors of democracy or mob rule.[72] By the Jacksonian era, the term "The Democracy" was in use by the party; the name "Democratic Party" was eventually settled upon.[73] In the 20th and 21st centuries, "Democrat Party" is a political epithet that is sometimes used by opponents to refer to the party. The current official name of the party is the "Democratic Party."

As for "Book of Mormons" or "Books of Mormon", it depends on what is plural there. Are there multiple books or were there many Mormons who were involved in keeping the records that later became the Book of Mormon? Since the missionaries are talking about multiple books not multiple men, it is properly "Books of Mormon."

Kinda like it is proper to say "passers-by" not "passer-bys" because there is more than one passer.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:22 am

Hmmm... not too sure if I want to defer to the wikipedia.

If the official name of the party is the Democratic Party, shouldn't the other then be the Republic Party? No... that's not right either... if that were right then it would be the Democracy Party and the Republic Party.

Oh well.

As to the book, my reasoning is this:
The copyrighted name of the book is "The Book of Mormon". If you're going to make it plural then it's "Book of Mormons", even if that sounds a little funny. If someone is uncomfortable with how that sounds, they can sound proper by saying, "copies of The Book of Mormon".