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My mom made sure that I tried all sorts of foods when I was a kid. And the variety of foods that were around us with our immigrant neighbors who were like kin was really something for a kid who was curious about everything.
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think we should stay on thread topic? NAAAAAAAAAH :-D
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I can ged this back on topic and still talk about food.

One of the things "they" hate us for is our abundance. Our choices. The sheer amount of goods we have available, and often own.

I mean, have you ever stopped by the cracker aisle in a store? All the myriad of choices! We go in and think nothing of having literally scores of different crackers. You can have them low in sodium or organic or with cheese from a certain state. You can have them in all kinds of flavours. You can have them in various shapes, even looking like wee fish with smiles! You can even have the exact same cracker as some big name brand, but packaged in a plainer box with the store name on it.
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^^^

Thomas Sowell touched on that line of thinking in the column I shared a few pages ago.
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well put t!!

and entirely true! but nobody gave it to us!! Folks had to be resourceful and imaginative and savvy in business to get us there..

I feel upset that some of the people that are supposed to be "friends" are also throwing-us-under-the-bus-holding-an-infant too...
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ElfDude wrote:^^^

Thomas Sowell touched on that line of thinking in the column I shared a few pages ago.
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CygnusX1 wrote:well put t!!

and entirely true! but nobody gave it to us!! Folks had to be resourceful and imaginative and savvy in business to get us there..

I feel upset that some of the people that are supposed to be "friends" are also throwing-us-under-the-bus-holding-an-infant too...
Siggs, I am with you on this one. I don't like those in our own nation who are mad because some people are rich and they aren't. Heck! It isn't just the rich they want the monies from, but anyone who has more than they do.

I tire of people saying that their cigarettes, their lottery tickets, their internet, their cable TV, their caller ID, their cell phone are all NEEDS and that I should pay for them to have it when they are not willing to go out and get a job. Don't get me wrong and think that I don't think anyone should get assistance. I am talking about the ones who make it a lifestyle and pass that lifestyle on to their children.
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My friend is a "special ed" teacher in a very poor neighborhood. One day she asked the children what they were going to do when they grew up.

Several answered, "Welfare" :shock: Now WHERE did they get this idea? :???:
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THAT is what I am talking about. That is something I won't sit still for in my family. My family have been poor and we have been kicked about even to the point of being removed from our farms by American military with guns because Andrew Jackson wanted our property, but we aren't going to sit around and be victims all our lives and demand that others provide everything for us.

Whatever happened to taking charge of your own life and overcoming?
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awip2062 wrote:Whatever happened to taking charge of your own life and overcoming?
"Irish need not apply" is what MY family dealt with. :roll:

Things are a bit different now. :twisted:
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They are, but what would have happened if all the Irish decided to just sit back and be victims all their lives?

You wouldn't be where you are now, H wouldn't be working in the pub she is working in, Judas Priest would never have recorded Some Heads Are Gonna Roll and Riverdance would never have been written since that songwriter is of Irish descent....
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My family, also of Irish descent, had to work in the coal mines of WV to make it, along with Italians, Americans of African descent (African American is the exact OPPOSITE folks), Slavs and other nationalities....

they were given NOTHING :shock:

In fact, you'll see some of THE BEST U.S. stone masonry in WV, done by Italian stone mason immigrants in the southern part of the state...
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I suspect lots of us have stories of ancestors who had to work hard to overcome adversity. Throughout the early to mid 1800's some of mine mine were driven further and further west (many of them pushing handcarts) by mobs who would burn down their homes and businesses, wathing their husbands tarred and feathered (or killed), their wives and daughters raped, etc. The governor of Illinois even issued an extermination order against them. They finally settled in a valley where Jim Bridger said he'd give $50 to any man who could grow an ear of corn, it was so desloate.

With no government assistance (the opposite, actually) and by working harder than a lazy slob like me can fathom they built irrigation systems, then farms, homes, churches, businesses, etc. They took care of each other without government assistance. Once there was actually food to be had they made sure no widows or children starved. And those same widows and children did all they could to contribute to the community. I really need to learn to follow their example better.
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I think we can all take lessons from these people.
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speaking of LESSONS....check this out:


What it took to get an 8th grade US education in 1895

--Remember when your grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education?

Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA.

It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)

1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of"lie,""play," and "run."
5. Define case; Illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 65 minutes)

1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)

1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

Orthography (Time, one hour) (Do we even know what this is??)

1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How are they classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)

1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of ! Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.

Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

It also shows you how poor our education system has become... and, NO! I don't have the answers, for I failed this 8th grade test!!
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