Oh No...Jazz!

Ogg · Post by **Ogg** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:16 am

Such a busy few days due to a staff shortage at work. I managed to catch a cool movie at my brothers via his surround sound monster tv/dvd thing last night. The movie in question is the new Tom Cruise thriller 'Collateral' and thoroughly enjoyable it was too. Maybe it was due to his sound system (and copious amounts of pot) but I remember enjoying the soundtrack and in paticular a kickin' jazz tune.
I downloaded the soundtrack album and realised it was a Miles Davis piece entitled 'Spanish Key', from the 'Bitches Brew' album apparently and I'm awaiting this at the moment. I played the piece and sure enough it's a motherfucker and I'm suddenly addicted to jazz!
It's easy to describe the initial reaction to fellow music fans, my bro and his lady we're tickled that the song moved me so much "who the hell is that" I exclaimed and had to insist on rewinding the dvd to have another listen.
Maybe this should be in the 'other music' forum but it does includes a movie so all is well. Perhaps the revelation that I've been moved by jazz will inspire a comment?
If anyone has knowledge of his work and would care to impart a little wisdom..?

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:07 am

D,

You finally got your Jazz cherrie popped, well, it feels good yes.

Hey the entire Bitches Brew disc is fuggin cool. Lemme know who else you might wanna know about, I have a pretty good knowledge of Jazz cats and their music................... L.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:40 am

Hey, if you've found another musical style that you like then go for it. I remember a similar thing myself when my sister played me some stuff by a Nottingham based band called Kelly's Heroes. They're a group of Irish people who live in the city and have formed a traditional Irish folk band. Needless to say, after hearing the whole of the tape, I was hooked on Folk music.

Ogg · Post by **Ogg** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:35 pm

The version of 'Spanish Key' on the soundtrack album is a mere 3 minutes so imagine my suprise when I discover the original is 17 minutes long...and I've just listened to it in it's entirety, what a trip. This truly is good stuff.
I'm forced to use headphones whilst my son watches WWE because he thinks it's rubbish

. I explained that it should conjure the image of a waking New York (just read that

), that its all about the feel but he looked at me like I was an idiot and shook his head.
WHB, can you recommend another album? 'Bitches Brew' should keep me busy for a while. Me...and a jazz album

.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:51 pm

The word jazz encompasses such a wide variety of music (as does the word rock). Some of it I like a lot and some I can't stand.

I'm trying to remember what jazz albums I have... Pat Metheny, Alan Holdsworth, Jean Luc Ponty... can't think of any others...

happysmilies007 · Post by **happysmilies007** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:07 pm

ElfDude wrote:I'm trying to remember what jazz albums I have... Pat Metheny, Alan Holdsworth, Jean Luc Ponty... can't think of any others...

Jean Luc Ponty rocks. i love 'Faith In You'. it's awesome man.

carolynn

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:50 am

Chick Korea - Time Warp is really good. Gary Novak on drums, I saw them live and wow.

Any big band is good. Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Buddy Rich.

Here you go, find both volume 1 and 2 of "Burning for Buddy" a tribute to the music of Buddy Rich. This was done by NEIL PEART himself, with all kinds of great jazz and rock drummers. Both excellent discs.

More Miles Davis if you want, find Mood Indigo.

Derek Rondinelli · Post by **Derek Rondinelli** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:53 am

I kind of like Billie Holiday myself, her voice is haunting. It makes me feel her words like pain.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:27 am

I used to have a pretty good compilation tape of Bessie Smith. A little blues than jazz but definitely on the border

Ogg · Post by **Ogg** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:24 am

ED wrote:The word jazz encompasses such a wide variety of music (as does the word rock). Some of it I like a lot and some I can't stand.

Of course I'm generalising being as it's one artist that has me hooked so far. I cant get enough of the drums and bass underpining the 'Spanish Key' thang, it's great.
I have various tracks from 'Burning For Buddy' of course but thats it 'jazz' wise. I may well delve further into this new strange world.

WHB wrote:More Miles Davis if you want, find Mood Indigo.

Downloading it the now and yes I may have to actually buy an album

.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:11 pm

The lady H and I go to for music (can you really call drum lessons music lessons? *wink*) lessons is an old jazz player and she says that jazz is less a style than a way of making music.

Have you read Travelling Music yet, Ogg? Neil discusses much about music in there and he hits on jazz a fair amount. Might give you some ideas for folks to listen to. But you would have to suffer through reading a work by Neil. mwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The Snow Dog · Post by **The Snow Dog** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:11 am

Allright, I play sax, and I've been slummin' in the jazz world for quite a while now, so I shall attempt to aid your feeding in this wonderful style.

First, a word of warning: Jazz is known as Crazy People's music, so if you don't consider yourself crazy, you should probably book a session with a shrink.

Now, let's get into it. Being a sax player myself, I have to start with, of course, the great sax players. Charlie "Bird" Parker is the Jimi Hendrix of saxophone, but his style of jazz is a very up-beat and rolling style known as be-bop or bop. love it. Check out his songs Now's The Time, Bluebird, and Bird gets the Worm.

Another excelent saxophone player is John Caultraine, although sadly enough, I can't remember the names of any of his songs off-hand. he's one swingin' cat though.

Dizzie Gilespie is another bop player, but he's on the trumpet. also highly reccomended.

Count Basie is the king of cool, and just rolls out them sweet, spacious basie-style tunes.

Benny Goodman has some of the best Big Band songs out there, and is an amazing clarinet player to boot. You might recognize his song "Sing Sing Sing"... Rush did a mini-cover of it midway into "La Villa Strangiato".

A good album I reccomend is Kind of "Blue," the quintesential blues-jazz album. it is an experiment and exercise in 'modal jazz', a style that uses differnt scale modes in improvization instead of specific scales, making improv nigh limitless. most notably on are the tracks "So What" and "Flamenco Scetches".

Herbie Hancock in the seventies started the synth-funk style, and his album "HeadHunter" is sweet stuff, with it's 11 minute jam "Watermelon Man" and it's whopping 15 minute track "Chamealeon". another track you should look into is "Birdland".

and that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

hope I've helped.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:07 am

The Snow Dog wrote: First, a word of warning: Jazz is known as Crazy People's music, so if you don't consider yourself crazy, you should probably book a session with a shrink.

Well Spike Milligan started his career as a Jazz Trumpeter just before the outbreak of WWII

Ogg · Post by **Ogg** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:59 am

The Snow Dog wrote:Allright, I play sax, and I've been slummin' in the jazz world for quite a while now, so I shall attempt to aid your feeding in this wonderful style.

First, a word of warning: Jazz is known as Crazy People's music, so if you don't consider yourself crazy, you should probably book a session with a shrink.

Now, let's get into it. Being a sax player myself, I have to start with, of course, the great sax players. Charlie "Bird" Parker is the Jimi Hendrix of saxophone, but his style of jazz is a very up-beat and rolling style known as be-bop or bop. love it. Check out his songs Now's The Time, Bluebird, and Bird gets the Worm.

Another excelent saxophone player is John Caultraine, although sadly enough, I can't remember the names of any of his songs off-hand. he's one swingin' cat though.

Dizzie Gilespie is another bop player, but he's on the trumpet. also highly reccomended.

Count Basie is the king of cool, and just rolls out them sweet, spacious basie-style tunes.

Benny Goodman has some of the best Big Band songs out there, and is an amazing clarinet player to boot. You might recognize his song "Sing Sing Sing"... Rush did a mini-cover of it midway into "La Villa Strangiato".

A good album I reccomend is Kind of "Blue," the quintesential blues-jazz album. it is an experiment and exercise in 'modal jazz', a style that uses differnt scale modes in improvization instead of specific scales, making improv nigh limitless. most notably on are the tracks "So What" and "Flamenco Scetches".

Herbie Hancock in the seventies started the synth-funk style, and his album "HeadHunter" is sweet stuff, with it's 11 minute jam "Watermelon Man" and it's whopping 15 minute track "Chamealeon". another track you should look into is "Birdland".

and that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

hope I've helped.

Nice one SD, I'm still getting into 'Bitches Brew' at the moment especially one little ditty entitled 'Sanctuary' . I tend to download albums before I buy so if any of the above are available then I'll certainly have a listen mate

, thanks.

You wrote:First, a word of warning: Jazz is known as Crazy People's music, so if you don't consider yourself crazy, you should probably book a session with a shrink.

No worries there mate. Both my wife and son think I'm mad for listening to it in the first place,my son just shakes his head and sighs. I had a troublesome few months recently but with cool bytorian friends to help who needs a shrink?

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:43 pm

Watermelon Man? All I know of that is a "guitar lick" that is really the vocal line of those two words.

Lots of good suggestions there, Snow Dog. We are doing some Count Bassie stuff in the homeschool band when we go to the Jazz Fest in Moscow this year. I like Freddy Green's styly of rhythm playing.