NFL Thread

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:31 am

CygnusX1 wrote:What a rotten way for a player like Welker to go down.

Reminds me of Portis. He went down the same way before the
concussion put him on IR.

It sucks for the Pats, but that's the breaks. (No pun intended.)

I agree 100% - sh*t happened- now Mini Welker (Edelman) needs to step up and play his ass off like the last time Welker was hurt.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:34 am

YYZ30 wrote: Mini Welker (Edelman) needs to step up and play his ass off like the last time Welker was hurt.

From what I saw of him, he can do it.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:37 am

YYZ30 wrote:
Soup4Rush wrote:Did anybody hear Belichek blaming the field at Reliant Stadium for Welker's injury? Is this the same guy who ordered Foxboro be left uncovered overnight before the 2003 Colts/Pats AFC championship game and refused to answer rather the grounds crew watered down the field the night before with gardenhoses.

Really Bill???
And that's why we have field turf up here now- so haters like you can't whine about the field anymore.

was not whining... just amused at the hypocrisy.

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:45 am

Soup4Rush wrote:
YYZ30 wrote:
Soup4Rush wrote:Did anybody hear Belichek blaming the field at Reliant Stadium for Welker's injury? Is this the same guy who ordered Foxboro be left uncovered overnight before the 2003 Colts/Pats AFC championship game and refused to answer rather the grounds crew watered down the field the night before with gardenhoses.

Really Bill???
And that's why we have field turf up here now- so haters like you can't whine about the field anymore.

was not whining... just amused at the hypocrisy.

And the reason the fieldturf was installed was EXACTLY for this reason- to provide a consistent playing surface. (And having played on it myself I can say it is excellent to play on- even more so if it is a heated field- weather almost becomes a non-issue)

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:49 am

So at work we put together a Superbowl pick for $60.00 to the winner. We got 12 names and 12 numbers in two hats, picked and then #1 got to pick first and so on. I was 5th pick and all the bye teams were gone. I picked the Eagles to win it....................oh well, it's only 5 bucks. LOL

I was going to take the Saints, but the shops only Packers fan did............I called him bad names for the rest of the day.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:14 am

YYZ30 wrote:
Soup4Rush wrote:
YYZ30 wrote: And that's why we have field turf up here now- so haters like you can't whine about the field anymore.

was not whining... just amused at the hypocrisy.
And the reason the fieldturf was installed was EXACTLY for this reason- to provide a consistent playing surface. (And having played on it myself I can say it is excellent to play on- even more so if it is a heated field- weather almost becomes a non-issue)

only because the NFL ordered it. again, I was stunned at Bill's hypocrisy.

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:19 am

Soup4Rush wrote:
only because the NFL ordered it...

Source?

EDIT - Actually- by what I see from a press release the Krafts wanted the field put in- not the NFL.

http://acmecomm.com/newsroom/news.html?d=108902

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:31 am

there are some news articles about it and they were talking about it on ESPN the other night, after Belicheck made his comments about Welker's injury.

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:42 am

Soup4Rush wrote:there are some news articles about it and they were talking about it on ESPN the other night, after Belicheck made his comments about Welker's injury.

Rather than butt heads with you anymore I will have to say I don't think you and I will see eye to eye on this issue ever.

(which by the way isn't a bad thing- takes all kinds to make the world go 'round)

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:22 am

I did not think we were butting heads.. my original point was only that he complained about the field conditions at Reliant stadium causing an injury, but had no problems hosting an AFC championship game on a crappy field that was made crappy by not covering the field the night before. He had even said they did it to slow the Colt's offense down. These are not opinions, they are facts. All I said was that I was amused at his hypocrisy, thats all.

It is all good bro, no worries..

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:00 pm

Soup4Rush wrote:I did not think we were butting heads.. my original point was only that he complained about the field conditions at Reliant stadium causing an injury, but had no problems hosting an AFC championship game on a crappy field that was made crappy by not covering the field the night before. He had even said they did it to slow the Colt's offense down. These are not opinions, they are facts. All I said was that I was amused at his hypocrisy, thats all.

It is all good bro, no worries..

But why does Reliant have to use "grass in a tray"? Seems dumb to me.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:11 pm

I read a little about it.. Its kind of a cool process.. Arizona does something similar too.

Middle Kingdom · Post by **Middle Kingdom** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:56 am

I see Soup's point but the comments I heard on monday afternoon from Bill live on the radio was that each tray of grass had a different consistency, making each stride have different footing.

It sounds bad because Welker got hurt and the Pats lost, but overall
anyone could have got hurt and the conditions were bad for all.

As for the field treatment in 2003, that was done to slow a fast team down, much like baseball teams grow tall infield grass so speedy teams can't bunt on them.
The AFC 2003 title game wasn't bad field conditions due to poor field construction like Houston was - though that is what the field ended up turning into. Then you heard all visiting teams say what Bill said about Houston.

As for Pat White the Miami qb, I watched it again on youtube and he was tripped up from behind by Steelers #94. Steelers #24 who hit White started his tackle motion a split second before White was falling, and appears to be leading with his shoulder.
The angle at which White fell is how their helmets got lined up.
Very unfortunate, and I was glad to see White moving as they carted him off.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:02 am

Middle Kingdom wrote: much like baseball teams grow tall infield grass so speedy teams
can't bunt on them.

Like Fenway moving its outfield wall in or out, depending upon the hitting
power of their next opponent....right?

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:04 am

Middle Kingdom wrote: As for the field treatment in 2003, that was done to slow a fast team down, much like baseball teams grow tall infield grass so speedy teams can't bunt on them.

Like Fenway moving its outfield wall in or out, depending upon the hitting
power of their next opponent.