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Right now my view is pretty myopic... namely that horrible, corrupt, and statist cap and trade "climate bill" that passed in congress. Broken into two categories here... those to campaign against and those to thank. There are D's and R's in both lists.

Those to campaign against...
Vote District Representative
Arizona
Aye AZ-4 Pastor, Edward [D]
Aye AZ-7 Grijalva, Raul [D]
Aye AZ-8 Giffords, Gabrielle [D]
Arkansas
Aye AR-2 Snyder, Victor [D]
California
Aye CA-1 Thompson, C. [D]
Aye CA-5 Matsui, Doris [D]
Aye CA-6 Woolsey, Lynn [D]
Aye CA-7 Miller, George [D]
Aye CA-8 Pelosi, Nancy [D]
Aye CA-9 Lee, Barbara [D]
Aye CA-10 Tauscher, Ellen
Aye CA-11 McNerney, Jerry [D]
Aye CA-12 Speier, Jackie [D]
Aye CA-14 Eshoo, Anna [D]
Aye CA-15 Honda, Michael [D]
Aye CA-16 Lofgren, Zoe [D]
Aye CA-17 Farr, Sam [D]
Aye CA-18 Cardoza, Dennis [D]
Aye CA-23 Capps, Lois [D]
Aye CA-27 Sherman, Brad [D]
Aye CA-28 Berman, Howard [D]
Aye CA-29 Schiff, Adam [D]
Aye CA-30 Waxman, Henry [D]
Aye CA-31 Becerra, Xavier [D]
Aye CA-33 Watson, Diane [D]
Aye CA-34 Roybal-Allard, Lucille [D]
Aye CA-35 Waters, Maxine [D]
Aye CA-36 Harman, Jane [D]
Aye CA-37 Richardson, Laura [D]
Aye CA-38 Napolitano, Grace [D]
Aye CA-39 Sanchez, Linda [D]
Aye CA-43 Baca, Joe [D]
Aye CA-45 Bono Mack, Mary [R]
Aye CA-47 Sanchez, Loretta [D]
Aye CA-51 Filner, Bob [D]
Aye CA-53 Davis, Susan [D]
Colorado
Aye CO-1 DeGette, Diana [D]
Aye CO-2 Polis, Jared [D]
Aye CO-4 Markey, Betsy [D]
Aye CO-7 Perlmutter, Ed [D]
Connecticut
Aye CT-1 Larson, John [D]
Aye CT-2 Courtney, Joe [D]
Aye CT-3 DeLauro, Rosa [D]
Aye CT-4 Himes, James [D]
Aye CT-5 Murphy, Christopher [D]
Delaware
Aye DE-0 Castle, Michael [R]
Florida
Aye FL-2 Boyd, Allen [D]
Aye FL-3 Brown, Corrine [D]
Aye FL-8 Grayson, Alan [D]
Aye FL-11 Castor, Kathy [D]
Aye FL-17 Meek, Kendrick [D]
Aye FL-19 Wexler, Robert [D]
Aye FL-20 Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [D]
Aye FL-22 Klein, Ron [D]
Aye FL-24 Kosmas, Suzanne [D]
Georgia
Aye GA-2 Bishop, Sanford [D]
Aye GA-4 Johnson, Henry [D]
Aye GA-5 Lewis, John [D]
Aye GA-13 Scott, David [D]
Hawaii
Aye HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]
Aye HI-2 Hirono, Mazie [D]
Illinois
Aye IL-1 Rush, Bobby [D]
Aye IL-2 Jackson, Jesse [D]
Aye IL-3 Lipinski, Daniel [D]
Aye IL-4 Gutierrez, Luis [D]
Aye IL-5 Quigley, Mike [D]
Aye IL-7 Davis, Danny [D]
Aye IL-8 Bean, Melissa [D]
Aye IL-9 Schakowsky, Janice [D]
Aye IL-10 Kirk, Mark [R]
Aye IL-11 Halvorson, Deborah [D]
Aye IL-17 Hare, Phil [D]
Indiana
Aye IN-7 Carson, Andr? [D]
Aye IN-9 Hill, Baron [D]
Iowa
Aye IA-1 Braley, Bruce [D]
Aye IA-2 Loebsack, David [D]
Aye IA-3 Boswell, Leonard [D]
Kansas
Aye KS-3 Moore, Dennis [D]
Kentucky
Aye KY-3 Yarmuth, John [D]
Aye KY-6 Chandler, Ben [D]
Maine
Aye ME-1 Pingree, Chellie [D]
Aye ME-2 Michaud, Michael [D]
Maryland
Aye MD-1 Kratovil, Frank [D]
Aye MD-2 Ruppersberger, C.A. [D]
Aye MD-3 Sarbanes, John [D]
Aye MD-4 Edwards, Donna [D]
Aye MD-5 Hoyer, Steny [D]
Aye MD-7 Cummings, Elijah [D]
Aye MD-8 Van Hollen, Christopher [D]
Massachusetts
Aye MA-1 Olver, John [D]
Aye MA-2 Neal, Richard [D]
Aye MA-3 McGovern, James [D]
Aye MA-4 Frank, Barney [D]
Aye MA-5 Tsongas, Niki [D]
Aye MA-6 Tierney, John [D]
Aye MA-7 Markey, Edward [D]
Aye MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]
Aye MA-9 Lynch, Stephen [D]
Aye MA-10 Delahunt, William [D]
Michigan
Aye MI-1 Stupak, Bart [D]
Aye MI-5 Kildee, Dale [D]
Aye MI-7 Schauer, Mark [D]
Aye MI-9 Peters, Gary [D]
Aye MI-12 Levin, Sander [D]
Aye MI-13 Kilpatrick, Carolyn [D]
Aye MI-14 Conyers, John [D]
Aye MI-15 Dingell, John [D]
Minnesota
Aye MN-1 Walz, Timothy [D]
Aye MN-4 McCollum, Betty [D]
Aye MN-5 Ellison, Keith [D]
Aye MN-7 Peterson, Collin [D]
Aye MN-8 Oberstar, James [D]
Mississippi
Aye MS-2 Thompson, Bennie [D]
Missouri
Aye MO-1 Clay, William [D]
Aye MO-3 Carnahan, Russ [D]
Aye MO-4 Skelton, Ike [D]
Aye MO-5 Cleaver, Emanuel [D]
Nevada
Aye NV-1 Berkley, Shelley [D]
Aye NV-3 Titus, Dina [D]
New Hampshire
Aye NH-1 Shea-Porter, Carol [D]
Aye NH-2 Hodes, Paul [D]
New Jersey
Aye NJ-1 Andrews, Robert [D]
Aye NJ-2 LoBiondo, Frank [R]
Aye NJ-3 Adler, John [D]
Aye NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
Aye NJ-6 Pallone, Frank [D]
Aye NJ-7 Lance, Leonard [R]
Aye NJ-8 Pascrell, William [D]
Aye NJ-9 Rothman, Steven [D]
Aye NJ-10 Payne, Donald [D]
Aye NJ-12 Holt, Rush [D]
Aye NJ-13 Sires, Albio [D]
New Mexico
Aye NM-1 Heinrich, Martin [D]
Aye NM-2 Teague, Harry [D]
Aye NM-3 Lujan, Ben [D]
New York
Aye NY-1 Bishop, Timothy [D]
Aye NY-2 Israel, Steve [D]
Aye NY-4 McCarthy, Carolyn [D]
Aye NY-5 Ackerman, Gary [D]
Aye NY-6 Meeks, Gregory [D]
Aye NY-7 Crowley, Joseph [D]
Aye NY-8 Nadler, Jerrold [D]
Aye NY-9 Weiner, Anthony [D]
Aye NY-10 Towns, Edolphus [D]
Aye NY-11 Clarke, Yvette [D]
Aye NY-12 Velazquez, Nydia [D]
Aye NY-13 McMahon, Michael [D]
Aye NY-14 Maloney, Carolyn [D]
Aye NY-15 Rangel, Charles [D]
Aye NY-16 Serrano, Jos? [D]
Aye NY-17 Engel, Eliot [D]
Aye NY-18 Lowey, Nita [D]
Aye NY-19 Hall, John [D]
Aye NY-20 Murphy, Scott [D]
Aye NY-21 Tonko, Paul [D]
Aye NY-22 Hinchey, Maurice [D]
Aye NY-23 McHugh, John [R]
Aye NY-25 Maffei, Daniel [D]
Aye NY-27 Higgins, Brian [D]
Aye NY-28 Slaughter, Louise [D]
North Carolina
Aye NC-1 Butterfield, George [D]
Aye NC-2 Etheridge, Bob [D]
Aye NC-4 Price, David [D]
Aye NC-11 Shuler, Heath [D]
Aye NC-12 Watt, Melvin [D]
Aye NC-13 Miller, R. [D]
Ohio
Aye OH-1 Driehaus, Steve [D]
Aye OH-9 Kaptur, Marcy [D]
Aye OH-11 Fudge, Marcia [D]
Aye OH-13 Sutton, Betty [D]
Aye OH-15 Kilroy, Mary Jo [D]
Aye OH-16 Boccieri, John [D]
Aye OH-17 Ryan, Timothy [D]
Aye OH-18 Space, Zachary [D]
Oregon
Aye OR-1 Wu, David [D]
Aye OR-3 Blumenauer, Earl [D]
Aye OR-5 Schrader, Kurt [D]
Pennsylvania
Aye PA-1 Brady, Robert [D]
Aye PA-2 Fattah, Chaka [D]
Aye PA-7 Sestak, Joe [D]
Aye PA-8 Murphy, Patrick [D]
Aye PA-11 Kanjorski, Paul [D]
Aye PA-12 Murtha, John [D]
Aye PA-13 Schwartz, Allyson [D]
Aye PA-14 Doyle, Michael [D]
Rhode Island
Aye RI-1 Kennedy, Patrick [D]
Aye RI-2 Langevin, James [D]
South Carolina
Aye SC-5 Spratt, John [D]
Aye SC-6 Clyburn, James [D]
Tennessee
Aye TN-5 Cooper, Jim [D]
Aye TN-6 Gordon, Barton [D]
Aye TN-9 Cohen, Steve [D]
Texas
Aye TX-9 Green, Al [D]
Aye TX-15 Hinojosa, Rub?n [D]
Aye TX-16 Reyes, Silvestre [D]
Aye TX-18 Jackson-Lee, Sheila [D]
Aye TX-20 Gonzalez, Charles [D]
Aye TX-25 Doggett, Lloyd [D]
Aye TX-28 Cuellar, Henry [D]
Aye TX-29 Green, Raymond [D]
Aye TX-30 Johnson, Eddie [D]
Vermont
Aye VT-0 Welch, Peter [D]
Virginia
Aye VA-3 Scott, Robert [D]
Aye VA-5 Perriello, Thomas [D]
Aye VA-8 Moran, James [D]
Aye VA-9 Boucher, Frederick [D]
Aye VA-11 Connolly, Gerald [D]
Washington
Aye WA-1 Inslee, Jay [D]
Aye WA-2 Larsen, Rick [D]
Aye WA-3 Baird, Brian [D]
Aye WA-6 Dicks, Norman [D]
Aye WA-7 McDermott, James [D]
Aye WA-8 Reichert, Dave [R]
Aye WA-9 Smith, Adam [D]
Wisconsin
Aye WI-2 Baldwin, Tammy [D]
Aye WI-3 Kind, Ronald [D]
Aye WI-4 Moore, Gwen [D]
Aye WI-7 Obey, David [D]
Aye WI-8 Kagen, Steve [D]


Those to thank...
Vote District Representative
Alabama
No AL-1 Bonner, Jo [R]
No AL-2 Bright, Bobby [D]
No AL-3 Rogers, Michael [R]
No AL-4 Aderholt, Robert [R]
No AL-5 Griffith, Parker [D]
No AL-6 Bachus, Spencer [R]
No AL-7 Davis, Artur [D]
Alaska
No AK-0 Young, Donald [R]
Arizona
No AZ-1 Kirkpatrick, Ann [D]
No AZ-2 Franks, Trent [R]
No AZ-3 Shadegg, John [R]
No AZ-5 Mitchell, Harry [D]
Arkansas
No AR-1 Berry, Robert [D]
No AR-3 Boozman, John [R]
No AR-4 Ross, Mike [D]
California
No CA-2 Herger, Walter [R]
No CA-3 Lungren, Daniel [R]
No CA-4 McClintock, Tom [R]
No CA-13 Stark, Fortney [D]
No CA-19 Radanovich, George [R]
No CA-20 Costa, Jim [D]
No CA-21 Nunes, Devin [R]
No CA-22 McCarthy, Kevin [R]
No CA-24 Gallegly, Elton [R]
No CA-25 McKeon, Howard [R]
No CA-26 Dreier, David [R]
No CA-40 Royce, Edward [R]
No CA-41 Lewis, Jerry [R]
No CA-42 Miller, Gary [R]
No CA-44 Calvert, Ken [R]
No CA-46 Rohrabacher, Dana [R]
No CA-48 Campbell, John [R]
No CA-49 Issa, Darrell [R]
No CA-50 Bilbray, Brian [R]
No CA-52 Hunter, Duncan [R]
Colorado
No CO-3 Salazar, John [D]
No CO-5 Lamborn, Doug [R]
No CO-6 Coffman, Mike [R]
Florida
No FL-1 Miller, Jeff [R]
No FL-4 Crenshaw, Ander [R]
No FL-5 Brown-Waite, Virginia [R]
No FL-6 Stearns, Clifford [R]
No FL-7 Mica, John [R]
No FL-9 Bilirakis, Gus [R]
No FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
No FL-12 Putnam, Adam [R]
No FL-13 Buchanan, Vern [R]
No FL-14 Mack, Connie [R]
No FL-15 Posey, Bill [R]
No FL-16 Rooney, Thomas [R]
No FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
No FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [R]
No FL-25 Diaz-Balart, Mario [R]
Georgia
No GA-1 Kingston, Jack [R]
No GA-3 Westmoreland, Lynn [R]
No GA-6 Price, Tom [R]
No GA-7 Linder, John [R]
No GA-8 Marshall, James [D]
No GA-9 Deal, Nathan [R]
No GA-10 Broun, Paul [R]
No GA-11 Gingrey, John [R]
No GA-12 Barrow, John [D]
Idaho
No ID-1 Minnick, Walter [D]
No ID-2 Simpson, Michael [R]
Illinois
No IL-6 Roskam, Peter [R]
No IL-12 Costello, Jerry [D]
No IL-13 Biggert, Judy [R]
No IL-14 Foster, Bill [D]
No IL-15 Johnson, Timothy [R]
No IL-16 Manzullo, Donald [R]
No IL-18 Schock, Aaron [R]
No IL-19 Shimkus, John [R]
Indiana
No IN-1 Visclosky, Peter [D]
No IN-2 Donnelly, Joe [D]
No IN-3 Souder, Mark [R]
No IN-4 Buyer, Stephen [R]
No IN-5 Burton, Dan [R]
No IN-6 Pence, Mike [R]
No IN-8 Ellsworth, Brad [D]
Iowa
No IA-4 Latham, Thomas [R]
No IA-5 King, Steve [R]
Kansas
No KS-1 Moran, Jerry [R]
No KS-2 Jenkins, Lynn [R]
No KS-4 Tiahrt, Todd [R]
Kentucky
No KY-1 Whitfield, Edward [R]
No KY-2 Guthrie, Brett [R]
No KY-4 Davis, Geoff [R]
No KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
Louisiana
No LA-1 Scalise, Steve [R]
No LA-2 Cao, Anh [R]
No LA-3 Melancon, Charles [D]
No LA-4 Fleming, John [R]
No LA-5 Alexander, Rodney [R]
No LA-6 Cassidy, Bill [R]
No LA-7 Boustany, Charles [R]
Maryland
No MD-6 Bartlett, Roscoe [R]
Michigan
No MI-2 Hoekstra, Peter [R]
No MI-3 Ehlers, Vernon [R]
No MI-4 Camp, David [R]
No MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
No MI-8 Rogers, Michael [R]
No MI-10 Miller, Candice [R]
No MI-11 McCotter, Thaddeus [R]
Minnesota
No MN-2 Kline, John [R]
No MN-3 Paulsen, Erik [R]
No MN-6 Bachmann, Michele [R]
Mississippi
No MS-1 Childers, Travis [D]
No MS-3 Harper, Gregg [R]
No MS-4 Taylor, Gene [D]
Missouri
No MO-2 Akin, W. [R]
No MO-6 Graves, Samuel [R]
No MO-7 Blunt, Roy [R]
No MO-8 Emerson, Jo Ann [R]
No MO-9 Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R]
Montana
No MT-0 Rehberg, Dennis [R]
Nebraska
No NE-1 Fortenberry, Jeffrey [R]
No NE-2 Terry, Lee [R]
No NE-3 Smith, Adrian [R]
Nevada
No NV-2 Heller, Dean [R]
New Jersey
No NJ-5 Garrett, Scott [R]
No NJ-11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney [R]
New York
No NY-3 King, Peter [R]
No NY-24 Arcuri, Michael [D]
No NY-26 Lee, Christopher [R]
No NY-29 Massa, Eric [D]
North Carolina
No NC-3 Jones, Walter [R]
No NC-5 Foxx, Virginia [R]
No NC-6 Coble, Howard [R]
No NC-7 McIntyre, Mike [D]
No NC-8 Kissell, Larry [D]
No NC-9 Myrick, Sue [R]
No NC-10 Mchenry, Patrick [R]
North Dakota
No ND-0 Pomeroy, Earl [D]
Ohio
No OH-2 Schmidt, Jean [R]
No OH-3 Turner, Michael [R]
No OH-4 Jordan, Jim [R]
No OH-5 Latta, Robert [R]
No OH-6 Wilson, Charles [D]
No OH-7 Austria, Steve [R]
No OH-8 Boehner, John [R]
No OH-10 Kucinich, Dennis [D] (*Explained)
No OH-12 Tiberi, Patrick [R]
No OH-14 LaTourette, Steven [R]
Oklahoma
No OK-2 Boren, Dan [D]
No OK-3 Lucas, Frank [R]
No OK-4 Cole, Tom [R]
No OK-5 Fallin, Mary [R]
Oregon
No OR-2 Walden, Greg [R]
No OR-4 DeFazio, Peter [D]
Pennsylvania
No PA-3 Dahlkemper, Kathleen [D]
No PA-4 Altmire, Jason [D]
No PA-5 Thompson, Glenn [R]
No PA-6 Gerlach, Jim [R]
No PA-9 Shuster, William [R]
No PA-10 Carney, Christopher [D]
No PA-15 Dent, Charles [R]
No PA-16 Pitts, Joseph [R]
No PA-17 Holden, Tim [D]
No PA-18 Murphy, Tim [R]
No PA-19 Platts, Todd [R]
South Carolina
No SC-1 Brown, Henry [R]
No SC-2 Wilson, Addison [R]
No SC-3 Barrett, James [R]
No SC-4 Inglis, Bob [R]
South Dakota
No SD-0 Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [D]
Tennessee
No TN-1 Roe, Phil [R]
No TN-2 Duncan, John [R]
No TN-3 Wamp, Zach [R]
No TN-4 Davis, Lincoln [D]
No TN-7 Blackburn, Marsha [R]
No TN-8 Tanner, John [D]
Texas
No TX-1 Gohmert, Louis [R]
No TX-2 Poe, Ted [R]
No TX-3 Johnson, Samuel [R]
No TX-4 Hall, Ralph [R]
No TX-5 Hensarling, Jeb [R]
No TX-6 Barton, Joe [R]
No TX-7 Culberson, John [R]
No TX-8 Brady, Kevin [R]
No TX-10 McCaul, Michael [R]
No TX-11 Conaway, K. [R]
No TX-12 Granger, Kay [R]
No TX-13 Thornberry, William [R]
No TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]
No TX-17 Edwards, Thomas [D]
No TX-19 Neugebauer, Randy [R]
No TX-21 Smith, Lamar [R]
No TX-22 Olson, Pete [R]
No TX-23 Rodriguez, Ciro [D]
No TX-24 Marchant, Kenny [R]
No TX-26 Burgess, Michael [R]
No TX-27 Ortiz, Solomon [D]
No TX-31 Carter, John [R]
No TX-32 Sessions, Peter [R]
Utah
No UT-1 Bishop, Rob [R]
No UT-2 Matheson, Jim [D]
No UT-3 Chaffetz, Jason [R]
Virginia
No VA-1 Wittman, Rob [R]
No VA-2 Nye, Glenn [D]
No VA-4 Forbes, James [R]
No VA-6 Goodlatte, Robert [R]
No VA-7 Cantor, Eric [R]
No VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
Washington
No WA-4 Hastings, Doc [R]
No WA-5 McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [R]
West Virginia
No WV-1 Mollohan, Alan [D]
No WV-2 Capito, Shelley [R]
No WV-3 Rahall, Nick [D]
Wisconsin
No WI-1 Ryan, Paul [R]
No WI-5 Sensenbrenner, F. [R]
No WI-6 Petri, Thomas [R]
Wyoming
No WY-0 Lummis, Cynthia [R]
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Post by CygnusX1 »

I was thinking more on Senatorial lines, since they are either gonna make
or break this rediculous Cap-and-Traitor bill. In fact, my Rep. voted
against it, although it turned out to be an excercise in futility.

Partisanship and back-scratching prevailed over common sense and duty.

The House is a joke. Forget them. This boils down to the Senate, and
most in the loop there say that C&T's dead before it even goes to a vote.

For the good of the nation, I hope they're right.

If it passes, most Obama-ites won't feel the burn until they're even
DEEPER in poverty, still waiting for that free ride of socialist entitlements.

Just a bunch of sheep following Fearless Leader, getting closer to the cliff,
slamming cup after cup of hopey change-flavored Kool Aid on the way...
Don't start none...won't be none.
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Post by CygnusX1 »

From the "Treat me like a dog and I'll pee on the furniture" file:


Fired Inspector General Files Lawsuit,
Charges Political Motivation

By Stephen Dinan
The Washington Times
Saturday, July 18, 2009

The Inspector General President Obama fired last month filed a lawsuit
Friday to get his job back, claiming the firing was politically motivated
and broke a 2008 law governing how watchdogs can be dismissed.


Gerald Walpin, Inspector General of the Corporation for National
and Community Service, was removed June 10.

In a letter telling Congress of his decision, Mr. Obama said he no longer
had confidence in Mr. Walpin, but did not elaborate.

Mr. Walpin says he was fired because he targeted an Obama supporter,
Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, in a successful investigation that
resulted in Mr. Johnson and an academy on which he formerly served as
executive director repaying half the $847,000 it received in government
grants.


He also said in its haste to dump him, the administration never
interviewed him or any of his staff - an omission Mr. Walpin said in his
lawsuit violates a 2008 law meant to protect government watchdogs.


The law requires that Congress be notified 30 days before an Inspector
General is dismissed, and Mr. Walpin contends that the administration has
yet to meet the requirements for who should be notified and what
reasons must be given.


The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment
Friday evening.

Mr. Walpin became inspector general for CNCS in 2007.

Earlier this year Mr. Walpin issued reports that found that St. Hope
Academy, founded by Mr. Johnson, had misused some of the nearly
$850,000 in grant money it received from the federal AmeriCorps
program.

The academy has agreed to pay back about half the money.

But his actions in the investigation were criticized by the U.S. attorney for
the Eastern District of California, Lawrence G. Brown, who said the
Inspector General was out of bounds in pushing his case against the
mayor and hindered the prosecutor's own investigation.

Days after the firing, a White House lawyer wrote a letter to a small group
of senators explaining that Mr. Walpin at a May 20 meeting
was "confused, disoriented, unable to answer questions and exhibited
other behavior" that led the board of the corporation to question his
ability to serve as inspector general.

Though it's not part of the suit, Mr. Walpin's lawyers said in their legal
brief that the case "raises serious questions of age discrimination"
because of the accusations that Mr. Walpin, who is in his late 70s,
seemed unable to function.

The suit was filed in federal district court in Washington, D.C.

Siggy's Take: Old age and treachery will ALWAYS overcome youth and
skill. Chairman Zero f***ed up BIG TIME on this one. I "HOPE" he pays
dearly for his arrogance and corruption.
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Post by ElfDude »

Where some of your "stimulous bill" tax dollars are going...

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $2,531,600 FOR 'HAM, WATER ADDED, COOKED, FROZEN, SLICED, 2-LB'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,191,200 FOR '2 POUND FROZEN HAM SLICED'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $351,807 FOR 'REPLACE AND UPGRADE THE DUMBWAITER'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,562,568 FOR 'MOZZARELLA CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $5,708,260 FOR 'PROCESS CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $16,784,272 FOR 'CANNED PORK'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,444,100 FOR 'REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112'
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Post by CygnusX1 »

^^^

Nice. Really nice.

Anybody know how much Pelosi's mouse is getting?

I heard that was silly expensive too. :roll:
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Post by CygnusX1 »

It's NOT An Option
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:20 PM PT

It didn't take long to run into an "uh-oh" moment when reading the
House's "Health Care For All Americans" bill.

Right there on Page 16 - is a provision making individual private
medical insurance illegal.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

IBD Exclusive Series: Government-Run Healthcare: A Prescription For Failure


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page
document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it.

So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.

It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual
private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of "Protecting The Choice
To Keep Current Coverage," the "Limitation On New Enrollment" section
of the bill clearly states:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance
issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such
coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first
day"
(of the year the legislation becomes law).

So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised ? with, of course,
exceptions:

Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to
change it. Nor, will those who leave a company to work for themselves
be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.


From the beginning, opponents of the public option plan have warned that
if the government gets into the business of offering subsidized health
insurance coverage, the private insurance market will wither.

Drawn by a public option that will be 30% to 40% cheaper than their
current premiums because taxpayers will be funding it, employers will
gladly scrap their private plans and go with Washington's coverage.

The nonpartisan Lewin Group estimated in April that 120 million or more
Americans could lose their group coverage at work and end up in such a
program. That would leave private carriers with 50 million or fewer
customers. This could cause the market to, as Lewin Vice President John
Sheils put it, "fizzle out altogether."

What wasn't known until now is that the bill itself will kill the market for
private individual coverage by not letting any new policies be written
after the public option becomes law.

The legislation is also likely to finish off health savings accounts, a goal
that Democrats have had for years. They want to crush that alternative
because nothing gives individuals more control over their medical care,
and the government less, than HSAs.

With HSAs out of the way, a key obstacle to the left's expansion of the
welfare state will be removed.

The public option won't be an option for many, but rather a mandate for
buying government care. A free people should be outraged at this
advance of soft tyranny.


Washington does not have the constitutional or moral authority to outlaw
private markets in which parties voluntarily participate. It shouldn't be
killing business opportunities, or limiting choices, or legislating major
changes in Americans' lives.

It took just 16 pages of reading to find this naked attempt by
the political powers to increase their reach. It's scary to think how many
more breaches of liberty we'll come across in the final 1,002.
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Free market society?

Freedom?
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awip2062 wrote:Free market society?

Freedom?
Fuhgedaboudit Comrade Babushka t. You're on the Socialist train now.

When we're finished with our re-education and are de-loused, we'll be
issued a blunt shovel for Fearless Leader's "projects."

Now dig deep - for the tax man cometh.
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This just in:


Apparently, a writer on WorldNetDaily.com is offering $10k to anyone who
was present when Chairman O was born...

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=101892

Somebody's gonna jump on that pretty soon.
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if he had nothing to hide, he would release the information people want. innocent men don't run.
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Exactly, Comrade Myg.

Hey, tell us the REAL poop about health care up there.

We're getting bombarded with hard sells from both sides of the aisle
here, both for and against Chairman Zero's peoples' health care
proposal.

Personally, I'm dead-set against it.

How do YOU feel about the health care system in Canada?

The talking heads here say that if you're healthy, Canada's system
is great.

On the other hand, I've seen people say that you can only go to the
doctor three days a week in Canada, and the office is only open three
hours a day....

... and Canada exiles its old people onto ice floes, never to be seen
again.
:lol:

(Just kidding on the latter.)

Is that true? Tell us how it REALLY works.
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With ACORN's "shell game of deceit" untangled, the Fed
moves in for the head shot:

Rep. Issa's report claims criminal enterprises within ACORN

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... 24057.html

Comrades: At this point, If I were Fearless Leader - I would be very
nervous.

After all, we ARE the company we keep, but I digress.

***fetches shovel and returns to forced labor camp duties***
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ElfDude wrote:Where some of your "stimulous bill" tax dollars are going...

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $2,531,600 FOR 'HAM, WATER ADDED, COOKED, FROZEN, SLICED, 2-LB'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,191,200 FOR '2 POUND FROZEN HAM SLICED'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $351,807 FOR 'REPLACE AND UPGRADE THE DUMBWAITER'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,562,568 FOR 'MOZZARELLA CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $5,708,260 FOR 'PROCESS CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $16,784,272 FOR 'CANNED PORK'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,444,100 FOR 'REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112'

*not going to start because if I do I am going to get this whole forum shut down*
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YYZ30 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Where some of your "stimulous bill" tax dollars are going...

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $2,531,600 FOR 'HAM, WATER ADDED, COOKED, FROZEN, SLICED, 2-LB'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,191,200 FOR '2 POUND FROZEN HAM SLICED'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $351,807 FOR 'REPLACE AND UPGRADE THE DUMBWAITER'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,562,568 FOR 'MOZZARELLA CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $5,708,260 FOR 'PROCESS CHEESE'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $16,784,272 FOR 'CANNED PORK'

RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,444,100 FOR 'REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112'

*not going to start because if I do I am going to get this whole forum shut down*
They gotta be able to feed the masses when the bottom falls out Bro.
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