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Sir Myghin wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Anyway, I'm really excited for you. A brand new C66!!! :)
its a real shame none of the used ones floating around had a floyd, I could have one right now then, Floyds don't seem to be overly common, or those buying them from carvin, keep em. There were some pretty nice used ones.
Yeah, there were. And starting at $600 shipped too! :shock:
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ElfDude wrote:
Sir Myghin wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Anyway, I'm really excited for you. A brand new C66!!! :)
its a real shame none of the used ones floating around had a floyd, I could have one right now then, Floyds don't seem to be overly common, or those buying them from carvin, keep em. There were some pretty nice used ones.
Yeah, there were. And starting at $600 shipped too! :shock:
much less than my price tag, ableit I pay no import fee or taxes only 4x shipping (thank you carvin as the taxes alone on these badboys range about 200 + brokerage can be around 50$ sometimes + customs fee on occasion...so for 104$ USD not a bad swing as the potential for 300 on delivery owed looms otherwise)
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Ok all you axe grinders, help a brother out.

My guitarist Terry is having all kinds of problems with his sound.

He wants to get away from all the overprocessed midi rack stuff and go Marshall amp and head. Problem is then he has 15 stomp boxes for his effects. Still overprocessed in my mind. He claims his midi rack is 100% seamless, and the pedals just don't allow for seamless transition from one sound to the next. I can't hear it, I think he and dogs are the only things that can hear all the quirky stuff he complains about.

We keep giving him crap about the rack being his "Crutch", and I know it pisses him off, but he is being hyper picky.......or is he???

So, I don't know exactly what stuff he is running for either configuration, but I am sure with all the guitar players here you all might have had some issues like this with gear, and know a way around it.

Lemme know.
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if he likes his sound and it doesn't fail him when he needs it, i would say he should be happy with it, the trick is having every sound you could want at your disposal, some people require more sounds than others. I use 2 boxes for my bass but they are very diverse (one is a clean boost and a distortion in 1, with its own eq so could be that too if i want, the other is a "synth" that can do octaver stuff, auto-wah, synth, frequency sweaps, and distortion to an extent to get bowed sounds and anything else you can imagine)

Don't look at pedals as crutches, look at them as tools to get the right sound for the right mood, the perfect in your head translation no compromise. Playing ina 3 piece I have used that synth pedal for MANY different functions to add more ambience to the music. from old school taurus pedal type long note stuff to bowed breakdowns, screaming octaved Artificial harmonics queued half way (thing high frequency then hit the harmonic to get it even higher).

The pedals to change multiple at once is the lack of seem, very difficult, the solution is stuff like pedal loops where this loop is on, a flip that loop is on, bleed through can happen though if not done really well.
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The midi rack is the crutch, the multi pedals are the tap dance he don't like....................that is not seamless.
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Hairy, I'm no expert, but less is more if you ask me.

All those stompboxes are more links in the guitar chain to fail.

Seems to me that he can get all that out of one MIDI multi-pedal and use
any amp/head/cab he wants if it's so "seamless."

I keep it simple myself. One multi-pedal and a wah. Turn me loose.



On a drooling grace note, check out some of these PRS masterpieces!

The doublenecks are sha-weet.

http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/ ... index.html
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The finish on #602 would look great on a set of drums. :-D

And thanks for the input so far all you all. :-)
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Every guitarist has a different approach to his tone. I too like to keep things simple.

My brother hasn't gone as far as getting a rack, but he's always on a quest for even better pedals and crams his pedal board full of them. And he sounds great.

I wouldn't presume to tell your friend what he ought or ought not to do with his gear. 8)
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CygnusX1 wrote: On a drooling grace note, check out some of these PRS masterpieces!

The doublenecks are sha-weet.

http://www.prsguitars.com/privatestock/ ... index.html
Some really gorgeous creations in there! :-D
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I wouldn't presume to tell your friend what he ought or ought not to do with his gear.
Oh but it's sooooooooooooooooooo fun to say to Terry,.........."Look, when I tighten my wingnuts, my cymbals get BRIGHTER!!" :razz: :lol: :razz: :lol:
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Ya need a boost/distortion, a chorus and maybe a wah at your feet. Everything else (Echo, reverb, eq, etc.) can be handled by a competent, alert soundman. If he's not competent and alert, make him the monitor mix man or light man and get a new knob twister.
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We run lights and sound on stage.

Russ handles the sound, I handle the lights.
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Walkinghairball wrote:
I wouldn't presume to tell your friend what he ought or ought not to do with his gear.
Oh but it's sooooooooooooooooooo fun to say to Terry,.........."Look, when I tighten my wingnuts, my cymbals get BRIGHTER!!" :razz: :lol: :razz: :lol:
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Walkinghairball wrote:We run lights and sound on stage.

Russ handles the sound, I handle the lights.
Ok, that is a bit different, then. I stick to my statement, except for possibly adding an echo to the floor for the occasional flying solo. Banks of effects on guitar, as Cyg says, are weak links.
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Big Blue Owl wrote:Ya need a boost/distortion, a chorus and maybe a wah at your feet.
Agreed. And since I play oldies I need some slap echp going on most of the time too. My chorus is seldom turned on though. :)
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