Thoughts, Theories and Ponderables

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:30 am

If we actually take everything the "scientists" say, the universe is its own self fulfilling entity. In essence, it is god.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:45 pm

Are we getting fat or what?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:59 pm

Big Blue Owl wrote:Are we getting fat or what?

Yup. Well, me anyway.

That used to be considered a sign of prosperity...

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:10 pm

I'M-NOT-FAT-I'M-BIG-BONED!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:17 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote:Are we getting fat or what?
Yup. Well, me anyway.

That used to be considered a sign of prosperity...

So was gout! Gah, my foot hurts...

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:34 pm

To address you post BBO, that is using BMI, it is hogshit, I have a BMI of 30-31. 5'9-5'10 (somewhere between) nd wieght about 206 lbs. If you saw me , I highly doubt you would say I am fat, got a bit of a gut but the rest is pretty muscley.

It all comes back to how you want to define fat

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:19 pm

According to BMI you at present height shouldnt weigh more than 175 ish pounds.
Now with that said, one of the guys I was in the service was a body builder, and he was on remedial PT because he weighed 250 pounds at 5'5". Yeah, muscle is heavier, but that is the BMI for you.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:48 pm

I remember two news stories a few years ago that came out within' days of each other. The first said that President Bush was the fittest president we'd had in decades. The second had a headline of something like "Bush Overweight!"

Have we recently changed the way we define overweight and obese?

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:34 pm

Walkinghairball wrote:According to BMI you at present height shouldnt weigh more than 175 ish pounds.
Now with that said, one of the guys I was in the service was a body builder, and he was on remedial PT because he weighed 250 pounds at 5'5". Yeah, muscle is heavier, but that is the BMI for you.

Actually the muscle is heavier thing is a bit of a myth too. It technically is but the difference is so small it is relatively negligible. muscle weights 1.06 grams per centimeter cubed, where fat wheres .9g per centimeter cubed. so .16g difference or 160g/liter. so in 1 litre about 1/3 a lb

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:36 pm

BMI= Bowel Movement Intensity

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:22 pm

BMI or no BMI the fact is our nation IS becoming fatter. Just look around.

My understanding of "obese" is 100 or more pounds overweight. And the amount of people I see in that class now amazes me. Interstingly, it appears that the more education and the more money a person in this nation has the lower the incidence of obesity. I may be wrong on that, but it is what seems true from those I encounter around me.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:23 pm

awip2062 wrote:BMI or no BMI the fact is our nation IS becoming fatter. Just look around.

My understanding of "obese" is 100 or more pounds overweight. And the amount of people I see in that class now amazes me. Interstingly, it appears that the more education and the more money a person in this nation has the lower the incidence of obesity. I may be wrong on that, but it is what seems true from those I encounter around me.

that seems counter-intuitive. (less money = bigger i mean)

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:31 pm

Ever looked in the shopping carts of the poor people around you? Now, this IS a generalization, but the ones who consider themselves to be poor and that they will always be poor, they tend to have horrid diets full of fat and starches and bad carbs but little in the way of fiber or healthy carbs, et cetera.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:55 pm

awip2062 wrote:Ever looked in the shopping carts of the poor people around you? Now, this IS a generalization, but the ones who consider themselves to be poor and that they will always be poor, they tend to have horrid diets full of fat and starches and bad carbs but little in the way of fiber or healthy carbs, et cetera.

i tend to try and get in and out of the grocery store as fast as possible as congested areas make me irritable. But excellent observation.

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:39 pm

Never go to the food store hungry.