Thoughts, Theories and Ponderables

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:36 pm

Big Blue Owl wrote: Does everyone have their O-bomb-a shelters built and ready to move into tomorrow?

I have a basement.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:29 am

ElfDude wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote:Smoothy switcheroo.
I wasn't really trying to change the subject. You just got me thinking about bomb shelters and then that movie sprang to mind.

To answer your question, no, I haven't.

The O-Bomb-a shelter thing was a joke, right? Or did I miss something in the news that I've gotten little of lately?

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:36 am

Nah, just a joke. But I'm sure there are those that think that this is the end of the world as they know it.

I find it hard to believe he hasn't been killed yet.

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:30 pm

"Oh, he's the first African American President." Good for him.

Why does skin color matter so much? In my eyes, he's simply the forty-fourth President. IS THAT SO WEIRD?

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:51 pm

Raiden wrote:"Oh, he's the first African American President." Good for him.

Why does skin color matter so much? In my eyes, he's simply the forty-fourth President. IS THAT SO WEIRD?

Well to us here as far as I know, skin color don't matter. Like King said, judge by the content of the character.

BUT to a neo nazi white supremicist...............it's unfathomable. For that, we are all surprised that BHO has not been shot.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:44 pm

I am surprised he hasn't been shot for the reasons Hairy gave, and I am praying he makes it to the end of a long life and dies in his sleep peacefully from age.

I think that people are really making this about race, though. I don't believe that we should not "see" a person's skin, and I do believe we should judge as King dreamed, on the content of one's character, but I see the polls. I know that almost every black skinned person in this nation who was polled is pro Obama and a far lesser number of otherly skinned people are pro Obama. I can't believe that it is due to policy alone or we would have seen them so outrageously for someone else previously and I can't recall that.

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:26 pm

If it were only up to color, I prolly woulda voted for him. Whities give me the heebie geebies!

It's his policies I voted against.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:36 pm

Dr. King would have no trouble with you voting against his policies as you were voting not for the external but the internal.

I have a dream. I dream that someday there is a fellow injun running for president and that I dig his character and policies and get to vote for and see him get sworn in.

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:30 pm

HOORAH!!!!!!!!!!

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:31 pm

I want a hybrid tootie frootie dude to vote for so we can all just get along!

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:40 pm

awip2062 wrote: I have a dream. I dream that someday there is a fellow injun running for president and that I dig his character and policies and get to vote for and see him get sworn in.

I'd like that. So long as he really loves the constitution and doesn't think it's "fundamentally flawed".

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:15 pm

Raiden wrote:"Oh, he's the first African American President." Good for him.

Why does skin color matter so much? In my eyes, he's simply the forty-fourth President. IS THAT SO WEIRD?

No, it is not weird. It shows that your generation is the first one that can honestly say that the roots (no pun) and reasons for racism are so far in the recent past that they have little bearing on your day-to-day dealings with people. It is possible that you would ask that question to your parents and they would have a much better feel for why this is a fairly unbelievable time in this country's history.
It was a mere 50 years ago in the south that people were tortured, hung and murdered because their skin pigment was dark. I'm glad we've finally arrived at a time when we have realized that we are all truly the same creature. Lincoln had it right 148 years ago. That's some slow change right there.

So be thankful that you and your peers get to ride this wave of togetherness without the shackles of the past to bring you down.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:44 pm

^^^^^

Did I tell you guys about the conversation between my dad and grandma I got pulled into when I was in junior high?

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:10 pm

^^^^

No, and you still haven't.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:38 pm

We were at my maternal grandma's apt visiting. She and my dad were talking about something but I wasn't paying attention. All of a sudden my dad says, "Isn't that right. Matt?"

"What?"

"That with kids your age you're more likely to ostracize someone who hates minorities (like blacks) than to ostracize the minorities themselves?"

"Yeah"

My grandmother looked astonished and baffled.

Later I asked what brought that up. One of my brothers had served an LDS mission in Japan. After coming home he was corresponding with a girl he met there. The correspondence seemed to be leading to some mutual affection. When my parents mentioned this to grandma she was horrified that my brother could consider marrying one of those "dirty Japs". Upon hearing that I think I was the one who looked astonished and baffled.

After all, dad had exchanged gunfire in WW2 with those "dirty Japs" and he didn't seem to mind the idea of my brother being interested in one. So why was grandma so upset about it?