Thoughts, Theories and Ponderables

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:29 pm

Back on topic... an old parable:

Two men lived next door to each other. One owned a goat and the other did not. The goatless man was very envious of his neighbor's goat. He really wanted one too, but couldn't afford to make such a purchase. He was so envious he began to dislike his neighbor. He envied him, disliked him, and thought bad things about him.

One day the two of them were walking along the street and they spotted a lamp on the ground. The goatless man ran to the lamp and a genie appeared and offered to grant the man one wish. Without any pause the man spoke up and said, "I wish my neighbor's goat would die!"

You can figure out the moral.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:42 pm

Heavy

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:00 pm

*nods*

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:48 pm

awip2062 wrote:*totally innocent of all charges *

Did I hear a request for lightning? I think I did.

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:33 pm

YYZ30 wrote:*moves away from t*

If the lightning hits you for lying I want to be over..........................................................................here.

You have been spared.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:46 am

Advice from Snopes.com http://snopes.com/

Any time you see an E-Mail that says "forward this on to '10' of your
friends," or "sign this petition," or "you'll get bad luck/good luck," or
whatever, it almost always has an E-Mail tracker program attached that
tracks the cookies and E-Mails of those folks you forward to.

The host sender is getting a copy each time it gets forwarded and then is
able to get lists of 'active' E-Mails to use in SPAM E-Mails, or sell to other
spammers.

Almost all E-Mails that ask you to add your name and forward on to
others are similar to that mass letter years ago that asked people to
send business cards to the little kid in Florida who wanted to break the
Guinness Book of Records for the most cards.

All it was, and all any of this type of E-Mail is, is a way to get names
and 'cookie ' tracking information for telemarketers and spammers - - to
validate active E-Mail accounts for their own profitable purposes.

You can do your friends and family members a GREAT favor (PLEASE) by
sending this information to them; you will be providing a service to your
friends, and will be rewarded by not getting thousands of spam E-Mails in
the future!

If you have been sending out (FORWARDING) the above kinds of E-Mail,
now you know why you get so much SPAM!

Do yourself a favor and STOP adding your name(s) to those types of
listings regardless how inviting they might sound! You may think you are
supporting a GREAT cause, but you are NOT in the long run.

Instead, you will be getting tons of junk mail later! Plus, we are helping
the spammers get rich! Let's don't make it easy for them!

Also: E-Mail petitions are NOT acceptable to Congress or any other
organization. To be acceptable, petitions must have a signed signature
and full address of the person signing the petition.

Read the full story here:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:08 am

haha, i have had my email filtering anything with FWD for years, shame that it likely tracks based on what other people try to send not what I recieve however.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:16 am

Sir Myghin wrote:haha, i have had my email filtering anything with FWD for years, shame that it likely tracks based on what other people try to send not what I recieve however.

Good for you Myg! HAPPY FRIDAY BRO!

It's all considered "chain mail" here and strictly prohibited.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:57 am

Dude, I went to the link at the bottom of the post re the e-mail trackers and got an article totally different from the one you posted. It was about e-petitions.

This page, however, has some similar information as the article you sent, although it disavows the information.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/false.asp

Man! These guys who send out lying e-mails are getting tricky. Now they send you real Snopes pages, just semi-related ones, to get you to think they are telling you the whole truth. What a great way to get people to disbelieve everything or believe everything. *sigh*

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:06 am

awip2062 wrote:Dude, I went to the link at the bottom of the post re the e-mail trackers and got an article totally different from the one you posted. It was about e-petitions.

This page, however, has some similar information as the article you sent, although it disavows the information.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/false.asp

Man! These guys who send out lying e-mails are getting tricky. Now they send you real Snopes pages, just semi-related ones, to get you to think they are telling you the whole truth. What a great way to get people to disbelieve everything or believe everything. *sigh*

D'OH! See! That's what I get for not following up on it myself!

I'm as bad as the sender of it to me....Sorry.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:10 am

The schemers are getting more and more sneaky. It's been pretty safe to bet that if someone sends you something with a link to Snopes it is totally above the board. *shakes head* What next?

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:18 am

awip2062 wrote:The schemers are getting more and more sneaky. It's been pretty safe to bet that if someone sends you something with a link to Snopes it is totally above the board. *shakes head* What next?

I can almost see it now...the "Snopes" virus...

that would be the pits...

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:28 am

awip2062 wrote:Dude, I went to the link at the bottom of the post re the e-mail trackers and got an article totally different from the one you posted. It was about e-petitions.

This page, however, has some similar information as the article you sent, although it disavows the information.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/false.asp

Man! These guys who send out lying e-mails are getting tricky. Now they send you real Snopes pages, just semi-related ones, to get you to think they are telling you the whole truth. What a great way to get people to disbelieve everything or believe everything. *sigh*

Does it say that there is no such thing as an e-mail tracker?

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:58 pm

It says Snopes has never said there were tracker programs associated with e-petitions/forwards that tell you to "forward this to ten people" which harvest the e-mail addresses of those who sign the petitions nor did they ever say that spammers use these to amass lists of active e-mail accounts.

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:01 pm

awip2062 wrote:It says Snopes has never said there were tracker
programs associated with e-petitions/forwards that tell you to "forward
this to ten people" which harvest the e-mail addresses of those who sign
the petitions nor did they ever say that spammers use these to amass
lists of active e-mail accounts.

there's definitely SOME kind of phishing or such going on, or Uncle
would let us play.