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My pleasure t! By all means - spread the love.
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Done and sent and all that! :-)

Where's the Joe, Joey? :coffee:
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awip2062 wrote:Done and sent and all that! :-)

Where's the Joe, Joey? :coffee:
Whoops! I'm slippin'! :shock: :???:

**hyperbrews some high-octane quaff for t**

Heryago....easy there...this'll curl yer shorthairs. :smt101 :lol:
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Mmmmmmmboyhowdy!

Maybe if we force-fed that to the rest of the board, they'd post? LOL
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awip2062 wrote:Mmmmmmmboyhowdy!

Maybe if we force-fed that to the rest of the board, they'd post? LOL
I'm all over it....gimme a funnel. LOL
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Tears flowed freely in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, as families welcomed
back their loved ones in the South Dakota Air National Guard....

In other news....

The destroyer USS Howard is off the coast of Somalia, where a cargo ship
carrying tanks and other military equipment has been hijacked by Somali
pirates.
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The destroyer USS Howard is off the coast of Somalia, where a cargo ship
carrying tanks and other military equipment has been hijacked by Somali
pirates.
Oh man...I can see and hear a BOOM in their near future :lol:
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Ooooops Bad Choice Theater!

Ya know, I have a friend who is a merchant marine. He's been on those cargo ships. Today he is heading out to Seattle to get on a plane tomorrow for more duty. It's men like him that got hijacked by Pirates. :-(
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Big Blue Owl wrote:
The destroyer USS Howard is off the coast of Somalia, where a cargo ship
carrying tanks and other military equipment has been hijacked by Somali
pirates.
Oh man...I can see and hear a BOOM in their near future :lol:
I see the next Indian Ocean "turkey shoot" is on. :roll:
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Children gassed in Central Ohio mosque after "Obssession" video hits Dayton

Friday, September 26th ended a week in which thousands of copies of Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West -- the fear-mongering, anti-Muslim documentary being distributed by the millions in swing states via DVDs inserted in major newspapers and through the U.S. mail -- were distributed by mail in Ohio. The same day, a "chemical irritant" was sprayed through a window of the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton, where 300 people were gathered for a Ramadan prayer service. The room that the chemical was sprayed into was the room where babies and children were being kept while their mothers were engaged in prayers. This, apparently, is what the scare tactic political campaigning of John McCain's supporters has led to -- Americans perpetrating a terrorist attack against innocent children on American soil.

I read the story as reported by the Dayton Daily News, but this was after I had received an email written by a friend of some of the victims of these American terrorists. The matter of fact news report in the Dayton paper didn't come close to conveying the horrific impact of this unthinkable act like the email I had just read, so I asked the email's author for permission to share what they had written. The author was with one of the families from the mosque -- a mother and two of the small children who were in the room that was gassed -- the day after the attack occurred.
"She told me that the gas was sprayed into the room where the babies and children were being kept while their mothers prayed together their Ramadan prayers. Panicked mothers ran for their babies, crying for their children so they could flee from the gas that was burning their eyes and throats and lungs. She grabbed her youngest in her arms and grabbed the hand of her other daughter, moving with the others to exit the building and the irritating substance there.

"The paramedic said the young one was in shock, and gave her oxygen to help her breathe. The child couldn't stop sobbing.

"This didn't happen in some far away place -- but right here in Dayton, and to my friends. Many of the Iraqi refugees were praying together at the Mosque Friday evening. People that I know and love.

"I am hurt and angry. I tell her this is not America. She tells me this is not Heaven or Hell -- there are good and bad people everywhere.

"She tells me that her daughters slept with her last night, the little one in her arms and sobbing throughout the night. She tells me she is afraid, and will never return to the mosque, and I wonder what kind of country is this where people have to fear attending their place of worship?"

"The children come into the room, and tell me they want to leave America and return to Syria, where they had fled to from Iraq. They say they like me, ... , and other American friends -- but they are too afraid and want to leave. Should a 6 and 7 year old even have to contemplate the safety of their living situation?

"Did the anti-Muslim video circulating in the area have something to do with this incident, or is that just a bizarre coincidence? Who attacks women and children?

"What am I supposed to say to them? My words can't keep them safe from what is nothing less than terrorism, American style. Isn't losing loved ones, their homes, jobs, possessions and homeland enough? Is there no place where they can be safe?

"She didn't want me to leave her tonight, but it was after midnight, and I needed to get home and write this to my friends. Tell me -- tell me -- what am I supposed to say to them?"
When acting as a representative of Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), the 501(c)3 non-profit organization that I work for, I cannot engage in political activities. The distribution of Obsession, however, although a political campaign scheme, clearly crosses over into the mission of MRFF. So, I'm going to make two statements here -- one in my capacity as MRFF's Research Director, and another as an individual whose disgust at the vile campaign tactics of John McCain's supporters completely boiled over when I opened up the email about children being gassed.

My statement as MRFF's Research Director:

The presidential campaign edition of the Obsession DVD, produced and currently being distributed by the Clarion Fund, carries the endorsement of the chair of the counter-terrorism department of the U.S. Naval War College, using the name and authority of an official U.S. military institution not only to validate an attack the religion of Islam, but to influence a political campaign. For these reasons, this endorsement has been included in MRFF's second lawsuit against the Department of Defense, which was filed on September 25 in the Federal District Court in Kansas.

My opinion as an individual and thoroughly appalled human being:

John McCain has a moral obligation to publicly censure the Clarion Fund; to denounce the inflammatory, anti-Muslim message of Obsession; and to do everything in his power to stop any further campaign activities by his supporters that have the potential to incite violence.
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edit: Former post removed. More info needed.
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I'm searching the news websites for "Dayton" and this story isn't coming up...

Where did you get it from, BBO?
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Okay, found it in the Dayton Daily News.
By Doug Page

Staff Writer

Sunday, September 28, 2008

DAYTON ? The Muslim community gathered Sunday, Sept. 28, 48 hours after an unknown irritant disrupted worship at the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton.

"We were in the midst of the Fifth Prayer when people started coughing," said Ismail Gula, the society's secretary.

Gula said the building was evacuated and the service to break the daily fast of Ramadan continued at a nearby facility.

He said he had no idea what might have caused the incident. "It might be anything," he said.

Gula said he had received many calls of support from Christians and Jews over the weekend.

When Dayton fire and emergency personnel arrived at 26 Josie St. on Friday night, they noticed an odor. HAZMAT workers checked the structure for pepper spray and other irritants, but found nothing.

Police said they were continuing their investigation.

Also on Sunday, members of several Dayton religious groups were scheduled to view and discuss a DVD about Islamic radicalism mailed to some area homes and circulated with newspapers here and around the country.

"Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West," was a paid advertising insert in the Dayton Daily News, Springfield News-Sun, Hamilton JournalNews and Middletown Journal, all owned by Cox Ohio Publishing, on Monday, Sept. 22. It appeared in more than 70 other newspapers nationwide.

The Rev. Gary Percesepe, executive director of Greater Dayton Christian Connections, characterized the DVD as "fanning the flames of fear and prejudice against Muslims, with the potential to inspire hate crimes."
It sounds like someone might be hyping this up more than it needs to be. Or, for the conspiracy-minded, something is being hushed.
*doesn't know what to think at this point*
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Either way someone or someones are using religion to destroy unity rather than faith to build bonds.
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awip2062 wrote:Either way someone or someones are using religion to destroy unity rather than faith to build bonds.
Yeah, that's not cool at all....I hope they find them and they get CS
gassed in THEIR faces, then some "paddy wagon justice" on the way to
jail. :x


Sorry :???: :roll: , but unfortunately, there are many angry people out there in these
times.

It doesn't justify religious persecution....here...EVER.
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