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I bet they both look like crap after that article is out.
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CygnusX1 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:I wish I had a subscription to Fusion Magazine. Next month they'll be publishing some research they've done.

They'll be listing the positions of McCain and Obama (by using quotes from them) on a series of issues. Next to those positions they will be listing the positions of several of our founding fathers, and then Karl Marx and Josef Stalin on the very same issues.

You can probably guess what it's going to look like. It's a shame it won't be online for everyone to see.
Five'll getcha ten that Obama flip-flops. It's hard to tell where the FF would
have stood on oil though. And yeah, that WOULD be something to
actually be able to SEE IT ONLINE.

We can only hope it gets posted. I'm stoked to see the comparisons.
I doubt the FF spoke about oil in specific, since it wasn't a big deal at the time. But I bet they expressed opinions regarding whether to harvest our own natural resources or to import them.
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ElfDude wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:I wish I had a subscription to Fusion Magazine. Next month they'll be publishing some research they've done.

They'll be listing the positions of McCain and Obama (by using quotes from them) on a series of issues. Next to those positions they will be listing the positions of several of our founding fathers, and then Karl Marx and Josef Stalin on the very same issues.

You can probably guess what it's going to look like. It's a shame it won't be online for everyone to see.
Five'll getcha ten that Obama flip-flops. It's hard to tell where the FF would
have stood on oil though. And yeah, that WOULD be something to
actually be able to SEE IT ONLINE.

We can only hope it gets posted. I'm stoked to see the comparisons.
I doubt the FF spoke about oil in specific, since it wasn't a big deal at the time. But I bet they expressed opinions regarding whether to harvest our own natural resources or to import them.
I agree. It would fall under our natural resources and imports/exports.

I agree with Hairy too. I think both of 'em are gonna crash and burn. :lol:
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A local story. I was just at this intersection Saturday evening on my way to a gig only a few blocks away. You Washington people gotta quit sending your wackos down here...
A female suspect is dead and a police officer was shot in the head in a gunfight in Lehi Monday morning.

The shootout occured around 9 a.m. Monday when a Lehi officer tried to pull over a woman in front of a Holiday Oil gas station near 850 East Main Street.

When the officer approached the car, the woman apparently shot him in the head.

Other officers responded and shot and killed the woman.

Sky2 video shows a body covered with a sheet lying on the street. It also shows a gold car with Washington State plates parked alongside the road.

The officer was taken by medical helicopter to the hospital. No word yet on his condition.
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:-( That stinks! Glad you weren't about when it happened.

And, for the record, I am a native Californian who has just been transplanted! ;-)
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ElfDude wrote:A local story. I was just at this intersection Saturday evening on my way to a gig only a few blocks away. You Washington people gotta quit sending your wackos down here...
A female suspect is dead and a police officer was shot in the head in a gunfight in Lehi Monday morning.

The shootout occured around 9 a.m. Monday when a Lehi officer tried to pull over a woman in front of a Holiday Oil gas station near 850 East Main Street.

When the officer approached the car, the woman apparently shot him in the head.

Other officers responded and shot and killed the woman.

Sky2 video shows a body covered with a sheet lying on the street. It also shows a gold car with Washington State plates parked alongside the road.

The officer was taken by medical helicopter to the hospital. No word yet on his condition.
That was awful. The officer prolly let his guard down for the woman too.

My prayers go out to the officer and his family.

I hope the woman goes straight to Hell.
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Officer still alive last night and not expected to die. Was communicating with family.
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ElfDude wrote:Officer still alive last night and not expected to die. Was communicating with family.
Sweet, sweet. Chalk one up for the good guys.

That's one tough Hombre. My hat's off to him.
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ElfDude wrote:A local story. I was just at this intersection Saturday evening on my way to a gig only a few blocks away. You Washington people gotta quit sending your wackos down here...
A female suspect is dead and a police officer was shot in the head in a gunfight in Lehi Monday morning.

The shootout occured around 9 a.m. Monday when a Lehi officer tried to pull over a woman in front of a Holiday Oil gas station near 850 East Main Street.

When the officer approached the car, the woman apparently shot him in the head.

Other officers responded and shot and killed the woman.

Sky2 video shows a body covered with a sheet lying on the street. It also shows a gold car with Washington State plates parked alongside the road.

The officer was taken by medical helicopter to the hospital. No word yet on his condition.

Oh great, this story has even more to it.............

Spokane woman shoots Utah cop twice in head
Posted: June 24, 2008 12:46 PM PDT
Updated: June 24, 2008 04:35 PM PDT

LEHI, Utah - A Spokane woman is dead after being shot and killed Monday by police in Lehi, Utah. Officers say she fired at them during a routine traffic stop, hitting an officer twice in the head.

NBC affiliate KSL-TV in Salt Lake City reports that 34-year-old Kelly Wark was originally from Spokane but was living in Provo, Utah where she was attending the Utah College of Massage Therapy.

A clerk at a gas station where Wark bought gas called 911 to alert authorities that she might be driving imapaired, saying Wark seemed somewhat distracted, was slurring words and swaying back and forth. She told police Wark appeared high on medication.

Capt. Harold Terry, a 16-year veteran of the Lehi police force, spotted Wark's car and followed it until making a traffic stop. He spoke with Wark for a few minutes until backup officers arrived on the scene.

Moments later, Wark fired two shots at Terry, hitting him in the head. That's when backup officers shot and killed her.

"His condition continues to improve in the hospital. He's still down there. He's with family, and we're encouraged that his condition is improving," said Sgt. Darren Paul of the Lehi Police Department.

Police say initial investigation shows Wark had no criminal history.

An autopsy has been completed and investigators are awaiting the results before discussing whether drugs or alcohol were a factor.

I hope he makes it without too many lingering complications.
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Hairy, I feel bad for you and Elf because it hit so close to home, but other
than that...the girl was 100% whack.

she's lucky...the cops ended her suffering quickly.

The police officer has months - if not years - of pain and rehab and
therapy to go.
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Former tough-guy actor sets sights on US Senate

By BRUCE SCHREINER
www.townhall.com

Sonny Landham carved out a tough-guy reputation in a series of
big-screen roles, from roughing up Sylvester Stallone to getting
tossed out a window by Carl Weathers. He pulls no punches in his
newest role: Libertarian challenger to a man known for political
toughness, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Now 67 and living in northeastern Kentucky, the man who played "Billy
Bear" in "48 Hours" and was killed by an alien in "Predator" admits his
action-movie days are behind him.
"I think I'm having wild action
when I take two aspirin with my hot chocolate at night," he quipped.

The actor known for his powerful physique, booming voice and his
American Indian heritage says he's serious about his longshot bid,
because too many politicians are indifferent to voters' problems.

Landham refers to McConnell, a four-term Republican, as "Boss Hogg"
after the corrupt politician from "The Dukes of Hazzard" TV show. He
bluntly called Democratic candidate and millionaire businessman Bruce
Lunsford an "elitist."

Even President Bush is a target: "He took us into a war on lies," Landham
said, claiming the actual intent was "to put 'Big Oil' back into Iraq."

To qualify for the November ballot, Landham must collect at least 5,000
valid petition signatures by Aug. 12. State Libertarian Party Chairman
Ken Moellman said the petition drive began recently and he believes
Landham will make it.

But the bid includes some campaign baggage that seems scripted for
Hollywood, instead of socially conservative Kentucky. Early in his acting
career in the 1970s, Landham bared it all in adult films.

Asked whether that could hurt him politically, Landham replied, "What can
I do? That was a part of my life you cannot call back."

But he does express regrets.

"If I was going to do it now - knowing that I'm going to have four children,
knowing that I was going to run for office - no, I wouldn't make that
choice," he said. "But at the time I made the choice of getting a
paycheck, staying alive for your big break."

Landham also served more than 2 1/2 years in federal prison after being
convicted of making threatening and obscene phone calls to his ex-wife.
The conviction was thrown out by a federal appeals court that found he
committed no crime.

Libertarians, with their "live and let live" philosophy, look past his history.

"We look at the character of the man today, not what he did 30 years
ago," Moellman said, noting the actor "asked his Maker for forgiveness,
and that's all you can ask a man to do."

He said Landham lives "a better lifestyle" today, residing in Ashland with
his fifth wife and three of his children.

The cast of 1987's "Predator" featured two future state governors: Arnold
Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura. But the prospects of winning office
seem far more remote for Landham.

Political scientist Michael Baranowski, of Northern Kentucky University,
predicted minimal impact on the Senate race, though Landham could
take some votes from McConnell.

"I'm not sure which is more of a hurdle for Landham, being a former porn
actor or being a Libertarian Party candidate," he said. "But if the race
between McConnell and Lunsford is tight enough, the votes Landham
pulls from McConnell might be critical."

McConnell campaign adviser Scott Jennings said Landham won't push the
Republican incumbent off his message of how he has "delivered for the
commonwealth time and again."

This isn't the first dabbling in politics for Landham, who struggled to get
odd jobs after being released from prison. Now he still dabbles in acting,
but Social Security checks and an acting pension are his main income.

He flirted with running for governor as a Republican in 2003, left the GOP
and promised an independent run. He ultimately stayed out and backed
Republican Ernie Fletcher, who won.

Landham is as blunt on issues as he is skewering rivals. He equates
abortion with murder. He supports scrapping the North American Free
Trade Agreement. As for political correctness, he said, "PC is BS. Say
what you mean, mean what you say."

Moellman said such unscripted frankness will grab voter attention.

"Sonny is very upfront," he said. "You ask Sonny a question, he'll tell you
the answer. He isn't going to pull any punches, which is why I know this
race is going to be a lot of fun."
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Go Billy Bear.....................................I guess. :?
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CygnusX1 wrote:Hairy, I feel bad for you and Elf because it hit so close to home, but other
than that...the girl was 100% whack.

she's lucky...the cops ended her suffering quickly.

The police officer has months - if not years - of pain and rehab and
therapy to go.
Turns out that my friend/co-worker is the next door neighbor of the officer that killed her after watching her shoot the captain. My friend tried to call him after hearing about the event (mostly to get information) but wasn't able to talk to him until he went over to the house and rang the door. He said, "As soon as I saw his face, I knew he'd been involved."

Apparently, the woman was resisting talking to them. She was trying to roll up the window when the captain reached in and took her keys. She then grabbed a bag and pulled out her weapon. The captain made a grab for the weapon with the intent of putting his finger in front of the hammer so she couldn't fire. But she shot him in the head and he went down.

My friend's neighbor then shot her three times. He says he has no memory of actually shooting, though he remembers immediately seeing the results of the shooting. Of course he's on leave right now while there's an investigation going on, and of course he will be provided with counseling, etc.
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Such a lot of pain on the earth.
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