Gas and Oil

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:45 am

Scott McClellan simply waited to exhale, until he was out of the grasp of the lying liars, and shared his experiences with us, for which I feel a deep sense of gratitude. The book is brilliant.

Gore is a tool.

It's a hundred degrees in the shade in June and the Earth is stricken with devastating weather, the likes of which we haven't seen in hundies of years.
Give up and drown, burn, be crushed by the fallen chimney in a tornado, or do what we can to combat a combatant with real weapons of mass destruction? Of course, what can we do? We may never know if half of us continue to deny there is an issue and that we can do something to, at least, post-pone it.

If I had kids I'd first apologize for their future, then give them 600.00 to pay them back for the "stimulus" check we're receiving now that they will have to pay for in a decade or so.

Not angry...I just...care, I guess.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:56 am

Big Blue Owl wrote: It's a hundred degrees in the shade in June and the Earth is stricken with devastating weather, the likes of which we haven't seen in hundies of years.

Source?

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:03 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:Scott McClellan simply waited to exhale, until he was out of the grasp of the lying liars, and shared his experiences with us, for which I feel a deep sense of gratitude. The book is brilliant.

Gore is a tool.

It's a hundred degrees in the shade in June and the Earth is stricken with devastating weather, the likes of which we haven't seen in hundies of years.
Give up and drown, burn, be crushed by the fallen chimney in a tornado, or do what we can to combat a combatant with real weapons of mass destruction? Of course, what can we do? We may never know if half of us continue to deny there is an issue and that we can do something to, at least, post-pone it.

If I had kids I'd first apologize for their future, then give them 600.00 to pay them back for the "stimulus" check we're receiving now that they will have to pay for in a decade or so.

Not angry...I just...care, I guess.

I fall into the "The data we have is incomplete" crowd. We have metrological data dating back 150 years- give or take a decade. We have an incomplete sample and for all we know, this may just be a portion of the heating and cooling cycle the planet goes through.

My two pennies.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:03 am

There are many that have brought this to light, but this is the last site in my cache that I visited to read about it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2192361/

Found more:

http://www.gatherlittlebylittle.com/200 ... kage-loan/

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/ ... -our-kids/

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:09 am

Big Blue Owl wrote: It's a hundred degrees in the shade in June and the Earth is stricken with devastating weather, the likes of which we haven't seen in hundies of years.

Put down the doomsday kit - and read up on how we're going through the
same period of weather as was experienced in the 30's, 40's and 50's.

La Nina's fading, and as far as flooding goes, there were nowhere NEAR as many river dams to fail then as there are now.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmo ... ming-hurri

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:10 am

YYZ30 wrote: I fall into the "The data we have is incomplete" crowd. We have metrological data dating back 150 years- give or take a decade. We have an incomplete sample and for all we know, this may just be a portion of the heating and cooling cycle the planet goes through.

My two pennies.

That's true. And the thermometers and techniques of even 60 years ago are laughable by today's standards. But that's just for nitpicking over things like 0.6?C over the last 100 years.

But we do have ice core samples and other means of looking at how things were in general over the last few hundred thousand years. They show a pattern... a pattern from which we really haven't deviated. Nothing out of the ordinary is taking place.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:12 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:There are many that have brought this to light, but this is the last site in my cache that I visited to read about it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2192361/

A secret tax on teenagers?

Sorry, I got confused. I thought we were talking about unprecedented weather stuff.

I'm not inclined to argue with what that article present.

Carry on!

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:14 am

ElfDude wrote:
YYZ30 wrote: I fall into the "The data we have is incomplete" crowd. We have metrological data dating back 150 years- give or take a decade. We have an incomplete sample and for all we know, this may just be a portion of the heating and cooling cycle the planet goes through.

My two pennies.
That's true. And the thermometers and techniques of even 60 years ago are laughable by today's standards. But that's just for nitpicking over things like 0.6?C over the last 100 years.

But we do have ice core samples and other means of looking at how things were in general over the last few hundred thousand years. They show a pattern... a pattern from which we really haven't deviated. Nothing out of the ordinary is taking place.

Please tell my old man that.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:14 am

Crap. I posted the sources for the stimulus fiasco, not the warming one. Eh, screw it. I guess I don't care that much after all

Enjoy the summer, folks!

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:17 am

Big Blue Owl wrote: Enjoy the summer, folks!

Hot enough for ya?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:18 am

YYZ30 wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
YYZ30 wrote: I fall into the "The data we have is incomplete" crowd. We have metrological data dating back 150 years- give or take a decade. We have an incomplete sample and for all we know, this may just be a portion of the heating and cooling cycle the planet goes through.

My two pennies.
That's true. And the thermometers and techniques of even 60 years ago are laughable by today's standards. But that's just for nitpicking over things like 0.6?C over the last 100 years.

But we do have ice core samples and other means of looking at how things were in general over the last few hundred thousand years. They show a pattern... a pattern from which we really haven't deviated. Nothing out of the ordinary is taking place.
Please tell my old man that.

If he's willing to watch a little video, there's some great info here, presented in an entertaining way by Dr. Bob Carter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:18 am

YYZ30 wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote: Enjoy the summer, folks!
Hot enough for ya?

AFRICA hot here...but it comes with the territory.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:19 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:Crap. I posted the sources for the stimulus fiasco, not the warming one. Eh, screw it. I guess I don't care that much after all

Enjoy the summer, folks!

*hugs his favorite wise old owl with a Tootsie-pop*

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:24 am

CygnusX1 wrote:
YYZ30 wrote:
Big Blue Owl wrote: Enjoy the summer, folks!
Hot enough for ya?
AFRICA hot here...but it comes with the territory.

"Its hot! It's damn hot! Its hotter than a snake's ass in a wagon rut!"

5 points to the first to name the movie....

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:25 am

Thanks, my friend with the Elven magic