Today's Headlines

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:36 pm

Funny how this didn't make the U.S. headlines...

An open letter from 100 prominent scientisits to the UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-Moon.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=164002

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:33 am

Well, not one of the signatories was American Royalty.

If there had been movie stars or politicians or musicians in the list of signers, then things might have been different.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:53 am

Well I'm not adapting to being flooded out and baked! I see nothing wrong in cleaning ourselves and the way we rot the sky to have a bit of convenience. I'm willing to not give up and do my part to preserve what's left of the ozone layer.
It's like a completely bald guy who has only a hat to protect his head from the sun's killing rays. An expert tells him, "That hat does nothing to help you." And it is obvious to the bald guy that it, in the very least, prevents his head from burning horribly. What should he do? Isn't wearing the hat the very least he can do?
Do we say it's perfectly logical to spend hundreds of billions to wage war in case someone might attack us, but none to try to right the ecological wrongs we've practiced for a hundred years?
Man, that all just came out. I guess I am still passionate about a few things.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:46 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:Well I'm not adapting to being flooded out and baked! I see nothing wrong in cleaning ourselves and the way we rot the sky to have a bit of convenience. I'm willing to not give up and do my part to preserve what's left of the ozone layer.

You don't have to. The ozone layer is in pretty much the same state as it has been for decades. We are fortunate to have ozone created by sunlight hitting our atmosphere. That's why the "ozone hole" tends to reside over polar ice caps, rather than over industrial nations.

It's like a completely bald guy who has only a hat to protect his head from the sun's killing rays. An expert tells him, "That hat does nothing to help you." And it is obvious to the bald guy that it, in the very least, prevents his head from burning horribly. What should he do? Isn't wearing the hat the very least he can do?

With all respect, that's a faulty analogy. While it may be obvious that the sun will burn your skin, it is not obvious that carbon dioxide forces planetary climatic change. Science is based upon repeatablilty. You observe something, you draw a conclusion, and then you provide repeatable evidence. We balding guys have repeated experience with the sun and the skin on our heads. Years and years of scientific experimentation repeatability demonstrates the effects of ultraviolet radation on skin. If an expert tells me that the sun will not burn my scalp, I will ask him to provide evidence, and keep wearing my hat in the sunshine unitl he does.

A more correct analogy might be if someone comes to you and claims that wearing nylons causes cancer in women. As evidence, he shows you statistics of how many women that have died of cancer in the past 30 years who also wore nylons. Well, he's gone through the first two steps. But before we should listen to him (and especially before we cease all nylon production in the world, putting so many people out of work, or before we start putting massive new taxes on all nylon usage and selling nylon offset credits), he needs to conduct scientific studies and demonstrate repeatability of his assertion.

That carbon dioxide is a pollutant is a pretty new assertion (after all, how long will a rainforest survive without carbon dioxide?). It's not something we have observed for ages. That the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere forces change of the planet's temperature is also a new assertion, which has already been debunked. Recent satellite data shows that since 1998 temperatures have dropped back to 1983 levels, but the UN is ignoring that. There are numerous scientific papers to which I could point that back up the fact that these claims have been a hoax, but I'm digressing.

As I've stated before, I believe that we need to be good stewards of the planet. I believe we should curb as much of our pollution as we can. I'm not opposed to clean air and clean water.

But my point, again, is that this man-made global warming scare is driven by those who want new reasons to tax us, and to confiscate and redistribute wealth. And at the UN that attitude is exascerbated by the desire to flat out harm the American economy.

We need to approach this carefully and logically, not emotionally.

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:23 pm

Right on. I do admit to approaching issues with too much emotion and not enough fact. I'm a better student than teacher, I think.

My foot tastes...........footy

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:29 pm

Foot by the Fruit,I mean, Fruit by the Foot tastes good.

There's a ton I need to learn, too, I think we all need to keep learning especially as the times and people keep changing on us!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:30 am

Dead Reverend's Rubber Fetish
Autopsy: Pastor found in wet suits after autoerotic mishap

OCTOBER 8--An Alabama minister who died in June of "accidental mechanical asphyxia" was found hogtied and wearing two complete wet suits, including a face mask, diving gloves and slippers, rubberized underwear, and a head mask, according to an autopsy report. Investigators determined that Rev. Gary Aldridge's death was not caused by foul play and that the 51-year-old pastor of Montgomery's Thorington Road Baptist Church was alone in his home at the time he died (while apparently in the midst of some autoerotic undertaking). While the Montgomery Advertiser, which first obtained the autopsy records, reported on Aldridge's two wet suits, the family newspaper chose not to mention what police discovered inside the minister's rubber briefs, which was a large vibrator in his anus. Aldridge served as the church's pastor for 16 years. Immediately following his death, church officials issued a press release asking community members to "please refrain from speculation" about what led to Aldridge's demise, adding that, "we will begin the healing process under the strong arm of our Savior, Jesus Christ."

Walkinghairball · Post by **Walkinghairball** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:43 am

The story ^^^^

FUH-REEK-SHOW!!!!!!

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:50 am

There are definitely some fetishes that I'll never be able to understand...

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:09 pm

Oh bother. *sigh*

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:00 pm

Big Blue Owl wrote:church officials issued a press release asking community members to "please refrain from speculation" about what led to Aldridge's demise

pretty obvious what lead to his demise

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:37 pm

A pat on the back from me to Bill Clinton! (who'da thunk it?)

http://www.townhall.com/video/FoxNews/2 ... nton_F1200

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:53 pm

Good for him! He could have used it to bash Bush, but he didn't.

Soup4Rush · Post by **Soup4Rush** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:43 am

New Jersey officially apologizes for slaverly. hmmmmmmmm lets see New Jersey abolished slaverly in 1846. That was 162 years ago. The average lifespan of a human being is 72 years. To whom is New Jersey apologizing to?

and to that end a quote from Andy Rooney:

"I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else."

AMEN

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:59 am

ElfDude wrote:A pat on the back from me to Bill Clinton! (who'da thunk it?)

http://www.townhall.com/video/FoxNews/2 ... nton_F1200

That was sweet. I want to find the rest of that "speech." He was really getting pissed. I like that in a nice, laid back person from time-to-time. It shows that there is a line not to be crossed.