Guitarists' Thread

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:10 pm

What a load of symbolism in that picture!

The horns, or the Evil Eye, that Ronnie started as a symbol in metal, don't represent him, no.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:11 pm

awip2062 wrote:What a load of symbolism in that picture!

The horns, or the Evil Eye, that Ronnie started as a symbol in metal, don't represent him, no.

Ronnie started them? Tell me more...

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:12 pm

Lemme see if I can find the official story.

Here, this is from Tapio's Dio Page. Tapio knows Ronnie pretty well, and you can find his name in the thanks section of some of Ronnie's CDs, so I take it he should know.

"Ronnie apparently brought the raised index and little finger hand sign to metal world in 1980. It was quickly adopted by the metal bands in '80s and somewhat identified as "heavy metal sign".

However, it has much older meaning too. In the ancient Egypt, the sign was called the evil eye sign. It was used to put a spell on someone, to cast "an evil eye". Many of the pharaos buried in the pyramids had sculptures guarding them, those sculptures often showed the evil eye sign to curse the grave robbers and to guard the pharao.

The sign has also many other meanings, depending on the culture where it is shown. It is called for example The Horned Hand by some religious groups. Some satanists also use it in their rituals.

This page is maintained by Tapio Keih?nen, E-mail: dio@iki.fi."

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:15 pm

I should add, I remember reading in some interview he grew up seeing his grandmother use it. It was meant to keep evil away.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:41 pm

Recently picked up an ES-335 clone (ever since Alex in the 70's I've loved that style of guitar). It has now been upgraded with new pickups (Carvin, of course) and it looks sweet.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:49 pm

excellent with the pickups but hows it sound on its own ?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:03 pm

Sir Myghin wrote:excellent with the pickups but hows it sound on its own ?

What do you mean, on it's own? Unplugged?

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:33 pm

aye unplugged/acoustic

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:39 pm

Semi-fantastic !!

Hey, bass player, meant to be stupid

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:40 pm

Sir Myghin wrote:aye unplugged/acoustic

Just like any other electric. It has very little sound unplugged since it's not hollow. Like the ES-335, it has a solid block running through the center, but the sides are hollow to add a little of that deeper resonant tone.

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:45 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Sir Myghin wrote:aye unplugged/acoustic
Just like any other electric. It has very little sound unplugged since it's not hollow. Like the ES-335, it has a solid block running through the center, but the sides are hollow to add a little of that deeper resonant tone.

Man, your serious about your guitar. Can you play YYZ on it ?

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:50 pm

Rocinante wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
Sir Myghin wrote:aye unplugged/acoustic
Just like any other electric. It has very little sound unplugged since it's not hollow. Like the ES-335, it has a solid block running through the center, but the sides are hollow to add a little of that deeper resonant tone.
Man, your serious about your guitar. Can you play YYZ on it ?

Some of it. Not too much.

Truth is, I tried to learn RUsh songs when I was a kid, but haven't put much effort into it in the last 15 years or so. I learned a lot of 2112, The Trees, Panacea, Different Strings, Lakeside Park, and a little bit of other stuff when I was young.

But I've found that with bands that I really really love, if I learn their material it takes a little bit of the magic out of it for me. I'd rather just listen. Well, that and the fact that Alex is an insane guitarist and I just can't keep up with him!

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:00 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
ElfDude wrote: Just like any other electric. It has very little sound unplugged since it's not hollow. Like the ES-335, it has a solid block running through the center, but the sides are hollow to add a little of that deeper resonant tone.
Man, your serious about your guitar. Can you play YYZ on it ?
Some of it. Not too much.

Truth is, I tried to learn RUsh songs when I was a kid, but haven't much much effort into it in the last 15 years or so. I learned a lot of 2112, The Trees, Panacea, Different Strings, Lakeside Park, and a little bit of other stuff when I was young.

But I've found that with bands that I really really love, if I learn their material it takes a little bit of the magic out of it for me. I'd rather just listen. Well, that and the fact that Alex is an insane guitarist and I just can't keep up with him!

Cool Elfie, no disrespect intended. I learned bass through Hemispheres, that was a @##?* chore.
I have always been choosy about basses personally. Wals are my Aston Martin....Overwaters and Musicmans are sweet after that.
I think you understand

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:06 pm

Rocinante wrote:I have always been choosy about basses personally. Wals are my Aston Martin....Overwaters and Musicmans are sweet after that.
I think you understand

I do. It's a wonderful thing when one finds the brand that really speaks to him. That's why I'm Carvin-crazy!

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:38 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Sir Myghin wrote:aye unplugged/acoustic
Just like any other electric. It has very little sound unplugged since it's not hollow. Like the ES-335, it has a solid block running through the center, but the sides are hollow to add a little of that deeper resonant tone.

Ah , from the pic i figured it was a hollow body. my bad